RE: Shed Of The Week: Mercedes 500 SEC
RE: Shed Of The Week: Mercedes 500 SEC
Friday 28th February 2014

Shed Of The Week: Mercedes 500 SEC

New S-Class Coupe out of reach? Shed found a very cheap and very tempting original



In Shedland, a car advertised by a non-car enthusiast on behalf of someone else who is either dead or ill can be the equivalent of a barn find. But only if it's genuine.

Take the ad for this week's Shed. For all the world it looks like it's been written by a Dickensian throwback who's hardly heard about cars in general, let alone Mercedes ones.

SEC's size too great even for pics
SEC's size too great even for pics
And that may well be the case. But what if it isn't? What if this is a cunning new sales psychology designed to lure the unaware onto the rocks of financial ruin?

This would certainly be the car to do it with. Back in 1991 Mercedes shocked the world with the technological superiority, double-glazed insulation and immense heft of its new W140 S-Class. A full 10 years in development, with regularly busted budgets that allegedly led to the departure of Benz's chief engineer, it was the last S-Class to be designed and built without regard to cost - which is exactly the sort of attitude you need to run a W140 now, in 2014.

It's hard to describe the wondrous feeling of separateness and invulnerability you get in these beasts. Shed remembers hustling an AMG-pimped 500 SE saloon around Germany in the early 90s and being utterly gobsmacked by the 'shrinkage factor'. It handled far better than it had any right to, thanks to a double-wishbone front end, multi-link rear suspension and autobahn-crushing weight.

A V8 Merc barge for £1K? Too good to be true?
A V8 Merc barge for £1K? Too good to be true?
The 500 SEC was the cruise liner of the W140 range, a boulevardier par excellence aimed at older, Hamlet-smoking men with pink trousers, platinum quiffs and a Thai bride in the boot alongside the gold-plated 3 iron. Its 2,940mm wheelbase was 100mm shorter than the 500 SE saloon's, but the coupé's massive build (it was the same overall length as the saloon, but 9mm wider) and truly plutocratic spec - just about everything, including burl wood and leather, moved across the brochure page from option to standard - made it a full 80kg heavier, at 2,080kg.

Even with all that metal to haul around, the SEC made good use of its M119 5.0-litre V8, surging creamily through a four-speed auto 'box to an electronically limited top end of 155mph. That extra weight dented the 0-62mph time a little (7.3 seconds versus 6.7 seconds for the saloon) but the sensation of unlikely speed was surreal in both behemoths.

No worries about burning through hard-to-find rubber: 235/60R16 tyres are easily available at under £70. Burning through fuel is another matter. The 22-gallon tank sounds like a recipe for decent Continental cruising, but an emissions figure on the wrong side of 300g/km means you'll be lucky to get 450 miles between fills - and brimming that tank will cost you £130 in the UK.

Two-tone blue wonderfully 90s
Two-tone blue wonderfully 90s
What about your other likely costs on this particular car? Let's speculate on those MOT advisories. 'Brake pipe slightly corroded'. Only slightly? We'll ignore that then.

'Light misting of oil' on front shocks? Light misting? That's Shed language for better than showroom, as you're getting bonus lubrication. 'Fuel pipes corroded.' With no comforting 'slightly' there, a bit of action might be required, though with average fuel consumption figures beginning with a 1 you probably won't notice much difference between perfect fuel pipes and leaky ones. 'Slight corrosion to n/s floor'. Ah, good old slight, welcome back. Another one to ignore. 'OSR brake slight binding'. Who cares about that when you've got more than 300hp under your right deck shoe? Obviously, 'slight' might become a problem later, but you'll have sold the car by then.

'ASR light on'. Hmm... this could be the dealbreaker. ASR stands for Acceleration Slip Regulation, M-B's early version of traction control. It prevented wheelspin under power. Here's a video from back in the day which sort of explains what was at that time a mystical feature.

ASR light on a slight worry
ASR light on a slight worry
Now, you could take the Shedman's 'cup half full' view that 'ASR light on' means you don't have to replace the bulb. Or you could do the decent thing, i.e. a diagnostic check on the electronic throttle system. You might be lucky: it might just be a sensor fault illuminating the bulb. But if there's a genuine problem in the system, quite possibly with the throttle valve, that will put the car into limp mode. That wouldn't necessarily have shown up on our advertiser's brief journey from the garage to the hard-standing, but if this fault is present it will require investigation and remedy. Which won't be cheap, given the nature of the car, though there are plenty of non-dealer specialists around with the knowledge to help mitigate the costs.

The big appeal of the W140 SEC is that it appears to have been in M-B brochures for just the one year: 1993. Arguably, that takes it out of the world of mass production and into the more rarefied environment of bespoke builds. The internet, coy little teaser that she is, refuses to divulge the actual number of SECs made, but it can't be many. If you saw another one in a year's driving it would definitely be a hand-waving event, if not a flagging-down-and-let's-have-a-beer event. Production continued after that of course, renamed first as the S-Class Coupe and then as the CL.

The downside? Well, as Mrs Shed likes to say at every available opportunity, size is an issue. Before weighing in with a bid for this stately machine, you'd best weigh yourself in first, because if you intend keeping it in a standard garage you'll need the hips of a baby snake to get out once you've backed your way in there. Alternatively, you could simply keep all your life accoutrements in the car and live there instead. Makes a change from the usual garden hut.

Here's that wonderfully/deliberately vague ad (Why no link? See below...)

I'm sure this has all the usual things this model has. I am selling this car to recupe a debt owing to me from a friend who has health and therefore money problems. He has owned it for many years but now no longer needs it. It has just been MOT'd and seems to run ok although i have only driven it from the garage.There is a fair bit of history.


Even tank-like Mercs move fast in Shedland
Even tank-like Mercs move fast in Shedland
Epilogue
Annoyingly, but not altogether surprisingly, the power of Shed has has struck once more: this SEC vanished from the PH classifieds just as we were about to publish. Luckily, the first reserve Shed was also a W140 Merc, this rather lovely low-mileage S320 saloon. All the fun of the SEC but with two extra doors and reasonable fuel consumption thrown in. Well, reasonable relative to the SEC anyway.

Here's the ad.

MERCEDES-BENZ S CLASS S320 4dr Auto DR OWNED+PX TO CLEAR

Saloon.3200 cc Petrol, Automatic. Next MOT due 12/07/2014, Electric Cream Leather Interior,ABS, Front electric windows, Side airbags, Remote central locking, Immobiliser, Steering wheel reach adjustment, Full size spare wheel, Radio/Cassette, Drivers airbag, Passenger airbag, Electric door mirrors, Heated door mirrors, Front armrest, Cruise control, Alarm, Electrically adjustable passenger seat, Steering wheel rake adjustment, Climate control, Headlight washers, Audio remote control, Central locking, Electrically adjustable drivers seat, Rear headrests, Electric sunroof, Trip computer, Heated front seat, Lumbar support, Alloy wheels, Traction control, Rear armrest, PAS, Service indicator, 3x3 point rear seat belts, Rear electric windows

 


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Dan Trent

Original Poster:

1,866 posts

197 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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Apologies for the improvised 'two Sheds for the price of one' addition this week; the SEC as described vanished overnight from the PH classifieds so we needed an urgent plan B. Hence the S-Class stand-in.

Not ideal but in the circumstances we'll beg your understanding!

Cheers,

Dan

rejn

2,020 posts

251 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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Didn't realise the W140 was ever designated an SEC. A W126 for £1k would be interesting!

Highway Star

3,615 posts

260 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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The S looks a better bet than the SEC from the pics.

irocfan

48,995 posts

219 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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you'd have to have bigger balls than me to get that.... it is suitably epic though

TORQ

200 posts

258 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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One of my favourite personal sheds was an E Class coupe that I wafted around in for a year and sold for slightly more than I paid for it, a delight to own.

Have always dearly wanted a W140 S Coupe, the pantheon of shedding. Huge risk or scrapage if it goes wrong. Shame the ad was pulled! It would be worth the pain of explaining to family and friends why you bought such a titan.

stevebear

92 posts

193 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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" Slight corrosion to n/s floor'. Ah, good old slight, welcome back. Another one to ignore. "

Excellent writing!

P-Jay

11,403 posts

220 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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That is truly epic, what a car, full stop, never mind for a grand and if it does completely die it's got to be worth £500 in scrap.

bencollins

3,574 posts

234 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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Cant help but wonder with all these barges if and when a used diesel engine swap in becomes worth it.
£1k + £?k engine swap, choose similar torque to the V8 und bob ist dein oncle.

nagsheadwarrior

2,789 posts

208 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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With a years mot if it did drive without constantly dropping into limp mode that wouldve been an epic shedfugly but utterley epic.

SmartVenom

462 posts

198 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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Now this is a welcome return to form.

Awesome shed even if the ad does sound dodgy in the extreme.

dbdb

5,191 posts

202 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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Top quality work from Shed of the week again! Only a couple of weeks after the XJ40 you're featuring a car I might actually want once again. Marvellous.

My brother had a W140 S320 in the same colour as this one, but with grey leather, in the 1990s. It was about the same age. I liked it and remember it fondly, as does he. It was such a smooth thing, with surprisingly good performance.

It was massive though - too big even, and lovely though it was, it didn't have quite the peerless build Mercedes were famed for at the time. It could be a needy beast and didn't like wet weather. It also had an alarming foible where on turning the ignition key, instead of the engine starting all the dash lights would come on, then gradually dim to a feint glow - and the engine would be dead. Turning the key to 'off', then turning it back again to start the car and it would fire up normally. It was very odd. Oh and its front electric windows did a little up-down dance randomly sometimes. Without even touching the buttons. It was disconcerting feature which could break the spell somewhat.

Magnificent cars, but I imagine if any Shed rewards managed retreat, this is it. Definitely worth a punt for the (as another thread puts it) the feeling of Majesty driving one brings!!

Schermerhorn

4,353 posts

218 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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Here is the Top Gear (classic) video reviewing on of these monsters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tfa8uC9IjE

Sooo much want!

ianwayne

8,510 posts

297 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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Close to me. A visit to the Parkway website shows they also have a V reg E240 that's the same price. Hmmm. May pop along tomorrow; they've a LOT of cars.

Edited by ianwayne on Friday 28th February 10:13

V8 FOU

3,023 posts

176 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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"Recovering a debt.... ill health..." Seen that one a few times on here and Ebay. Obviously the same sales patter from a part time dealer. Perhaps that is why the ad disappeared?

Zammy

705 posts

192 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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Poor Shed, after yet another good write up they go and pull the advert!! The nerve! Don't worry Shed we still love ya!

J4CKO

46,824 posts

229 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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Ignoring the fact its gone, that is an epic shed, these things were amazingly well built though I beleive the electrics can be a bit suspect at this age which may be part of the ASR issue. They were pretty complex for the time but nowhere near as complex as now, the ASR thing can be as simple as a brake light switch or just cleaning wheel sensors. Brake pipes arent that hard to do in priciple but suspect the routing could be pretty convulted on there and need moving some major components out of the way.

Shock absorbers are usually quite cheap but depends whether it shares them with the saloon or they are something fancy, failing that a quick wipe if they still work. Rust wise, cant imagine its that advanced, these arent big rotters, so might just be surface rust or a quick patch.

I do think they were impressive, but pretty ugly and slab sided, still cant work out how Mercedes signed that shape off after seeign those that came before and after, still, wouldnt say no, just needs a bit of Wheeler Dealers type attention.

rswift

1,181 posts

204 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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bencollins said:
Cant help but wonder with all these barges if and when a used diesel engine swap in becomes worth it.
£1k + £?k engine swap, choose similar torque to the V8 und bob ist dein oncle.
Put an LPG kit on, probably about a grand and easier, quicker than an engine change, and you still keep the comfort. & performance.

ukmike2000

476 posts

197 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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Even more epic than just "Epic Sheddery"

I looked at an S320 a few years ago with a serious urge to purchase, when they were around £3500. Common sense prevailed and I let it pass me by - I still occasionally regret missing out, but then I still have a flat, clothes and food, which might not have been the case if I'd fallen under the spell. Still, for under a grand what could possibly go wrong?


J4CKO

46,824 posts

229 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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bencollins said:
Cant help but wonder with all these barges if and when a used diesel engine swap in becomes worth it.
£1k + £?k engine swap, choose similar torque to the V8 und bob ist dein oncle.
LPG easier and retains the proper noises, if the 99p fuel cap of shame in the bumper can be avoided, for me if I see one of those it goes from awesome throwback barge to old woofer run on a shoestring, it destroys the illusion. Putting in a big modern diesel engine would be pretty involved I reckon.

e39darren

181 posts

170 months

Friday 28th February 2014
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V8 FOU said:
"Recovering a debt.... ill health..." Seen that one a few times on here and Ebay. Obviously the same sales patter from a part time dealer. Perhaps that is why the ad disappeared?
I read that as " I'm a loan shark/log book loan lender and the punter couldn't afford to pay me back so I knee capped him and took his car" lol