Anyone have a copy of TSRGD (Traffic Signs Regulation book)?
Anyone have a copy of TSRGD (Traffic Signs Regulation book)?
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Roadsnbits

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150 months

Tuesday 4th March 2014
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Does anyone have a hard copy of TSRGD (Traffic Signs Regulation and General Directions) lying around?

14-7

6,233 posts

220 months

Tuesday 4th March 2014
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It's online even in PDF format for you to download and peruse.

TooMany2cvs

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155 months

Tuesday 4th March 2014
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14-7 said:
It's online even in PDF format for you to download and peruse.
He's not wrong.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-tra...

Pints

18,451 posts

223 months

Tuesday 4th March 2014
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I keep a copy of the book on my ... er... bookshelf.

Roadsnbits

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150 months

Tuesday 4th March 2014
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I know about the pdf. Is it possible to get a hardcopy?

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Tuesday 4th March 2014
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Available from The Stationery Office at £54.50 to you sir, no discount for cash:

http://www.tsoshop.co.uk/bookstore.asp?FO=1159966&...

Be aware that the printed version won't necessarily include amendments made by subsequent legislation. An on-line version probably will.

Roadsnbits

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150 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Alright so basically this one has any amendments included:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-tra...

And this one doesn't have the amendments included:
http://www.tsoshop.co.uk/bookstore.asp?FO=1159966&...
Are the amendments important or just little changes?

Pints

18,451 posts

223 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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AMENDMENT
-noun
1. the act of amending or the state of being amended.
2. an alteration of or addition to a motion, bill, constitution, etc.
3. a change made by correction, addition, or deletion: The editors made few amendments to the manuscript.
4. Hort. a soil-conditioning substance that promotes plant growth indirectly by improving such soil qualities as porosity, moisture retention, and pH balance.

The 4th definition is probably not going to apply in this situation, but I've left it in for the sake of completeness.

tvrgit

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281 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Roadsnbits said:
Are the amendments important or just little changes?
The amendments might be critical if they happen to apply to the particular bit you are interested in.

Roadsnbits

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Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Ok I've checked the online version and it doesn't seem to include the amendments. Are you sure that it does include the amendments?

tvrgit

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281 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Roadsnbits said:
Ok I've checked the online version and it doesn't seem to include the amendments. Are you sure that it does include the amendments?
Again, depends which bits you are interested in - I don't know what amendments are included, and what aren't - all I meant was that the online version can be updated (some are, some aren't), the printed version definitely isn't.

tvrgit

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281 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Roadsnbits said:
Ok I've checked the online version and it doesn't seem to include the amendments. Are you sure that it does include the amendments?
Again, depends which bits you are interested in - I don't know what amendments are included, and what aren't - all I meant was that the online version can be updated (some are, some aren't), the printed version definitely isn't.

Roadsnbits

Original Poster:

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Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Ok thanks.

Does anyone else know which amendments are included on the online version?

tvrgit

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281 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Having now checked, it would appear to me that the downloadable pdfs, and the on-line version available at legislation.co.uk, are all the original version, as made in 2002, with none of the subsequent amendments included.

I say that because:

(a) the documents say so; and

(b) I have checked for certain amendments that I know about, and they are not there.

RammyMP

7,714 posts

182 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Are you looking in the right chapter for whatever details you are after? There are three chapters, one for warning signs, one for regulatory signs and one for road markings, then chapter 8 for temporary signs etc.

I've just done my streetworks refresher course, so I'm now even duller than I was before!

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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RammyMP said:
Are you looking in the right chapter for whatever details you are after? There are three chapters, one for warning signs, one for regulatory signs and one for road markings, then chapter 8 for temporary signs etc.

I've just done my streetworks refresher course, so I'm now even duller than I was before!
You're referring to the Traffic Signs Manual, not TSRGD 2002.

Roadsnbits

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Wednesday 5th March 2014
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tvrgit said:
Having now checked, it would appear to me that the downloadable pdfs, and the on-line version available at legislation.co.uk, are all the original version, as made in 2002, with none of the subsequent amendments included.

I say that because:

(a) the documents say so; and

(b) I have checked for certain amendments that I know about, and they are not there.
Thanks for confirming this. I will just buy the book and make the amendments in the book!

Roadsnbits

Original Poster:

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Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Nevermind. Just searched for 'tsrgd' on google and second result was this http://tsrgd.co.uk/ which seems to have the amendments etc included.

Now all the haters will be telling me 'why don't you google first before you ask'!

tvrgit

8,489 posts

281 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Roadsnbits said:
Nevermind. Just searched for 'tsrgd' on google and second result was this http://tsrgd.co.uk/ which seems to have the amendments etc included.

Now all the haters will be telling me 'why don't you google first before you ask'!
I wish I had googled before I answered! Handy app, that.