Why do pedestrians act like lemmings ?
Why do pedestrians act like lemmings ?
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BigsimonY

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634 posts

154 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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So was out and about early today in Edinburgh. 8 times today a pedestrian has just walked out in front of me without looking, causing me to ether slam on the breaks or swerve the car. To cap it off the look they give you......IT YOUR fkING FAULT. The majority of them have on these Stupid big Beats headphones and sunglasses. Do they not teach the green cross code in schools now?

Spare tyre

12,558 posts

159 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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a lot of kids just seem clueless, which is ok as they are just kids after all

i find the real problem people are druggies and young single mums pushing buggies

i guess they've probably never driven and have other things on their mind / everything else it someone elses problem syndrome

I'm a fan of dash cams and this is a great reason for em, clearly they could end you up in trouble too, but mine does encourage me to behave more

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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As a keen walker around London who also drives, and rides a bike, I find the number of motorists who seem not to know that you have to stop at a zebra crossing if I'm waiting to cross or sometimes even part way across, is just staggering.

If I am ever diagnosed with a terminal illness, my chosen method of euthanasia will be to throw myself in front of one of these s, in the happy knowledge that they will probably go to jail for killing me.

And my family will get a good few bob off their insurers.

Tonsko

6,299 posts

244 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
As a keen walker around London who also drives, and rides a bike, I find the number of motorists who seem not to know that you have to stop at a zebra crossing if I'm waiting to cross or sometimes even part way across, is just staggering.
Wel the thing is, the traffic doesn't actually have to stop unless you're on the crossing itself. If you're waiting to cross, cars are under no obligation to stop. It's polite to do so, of course. But that's the long and the short of it.

Number 19 if curious:

https://www.gov.uk/rules-pedestrians-1-to-35/cross...

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Tonsko said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
As a keen walker around London who also drives, and rides a bike, I find the number of motorists who seem not to know that you have to stop at a zebra crossing if I'm waiting to cross or sometimes even part way across, is just staggering.
Wel the thing is, the traffic doesn't actually have to stop unless you're on the crossing itself. If you're waiting to cross, cars are under no obligation to stop. It's polite to do so, of course. But that's the long and the short of it.

Number 19 if curious:

https://www.gov.uk/rules-pedestrians-1-to-35/cross...
Fair enough.

On Saturday I was crossing on a one way road, 2 lanes. Some had stopped for me to cross and as I was crossing someone in the 2nd lane overtook him whilst he was stationary. If I hadn't seem him coming and stopped half way across the zebra, he would have wiped me out.

swisstoni

23,954 posts

308 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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I always thought that the act of standing at a Zebra Crossing was sufficient to require a car to stop, if safe, and let you across.
Rules now appear to require the pedestrian to actually be on the crossing itself before traffic is required to stop.
Subtle difference but seems less safe for the pedestrian.

danjama

5,728 posts

171 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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That's exactly why i just step onto a zebra crossing immediately - they are obliged to stop.

If they hit me, i'll get a decent payout. sts.

Hoofy

80,050 posts

311 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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danjama said:
That's exactly why i just step onto a zebra crossing immediately - they are obliged to stop.

If they hit me, i'll get a decent payout. sts.
Which you can then spend on luxury holidays and drinking your food out of a straw for the rest of your life?

TBH I'd rather wait and not be hit.

kam05

272 posts

174 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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BigsimonY said:
The majority of them have on these Stupid big Beats headphones and sunglasses
and also most of them seem to be occupied with faecesbook, twitter etc on their phone!

Dog Star

17,583 posts

197 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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The spacktards that really get on my tits are the utter, total bellends that will push a pram out into the road between parked vehicles. Utter stupidity.

ezi

1,734 posts

215 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Hoofy said:
danjama said:
That's exactly why i just step onto a zebra crossing immediately - they are obliged to stop.

If they hit me, i'll get a decent payout. sts.
Which you can then spend on luxury holidays and drinking your food out of a straw for the rest of your life?

TBH I'd rather wait and not be hit.
The best part is how his profile says "Love life" hehe

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Tonsko said:
Wel the thing is, the traffic doesn't actually have to stop unless you're on the crossing itself. If you're waiting to cross, cars are under no obligation to stop. It's polite to do so, of course. But that's the long and the short of it.

Number 19 if curious:

https://www.gov.uk/rules-pedestrians-1-to-35/cross...
Why wouldn't anyone driving stop if they saw people waiting to cross? I can't say I have ever driven through a zebra crossing if there are people standing there?



Mercury00

4,250 posts

185 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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They had to reduce the speed limit on our road to 20mph because old people kept walking out in front of cars. There's a pedestrian crossing right in the middle of the street but they wouldn't use it, they just push their trolleys into the road wherever they are.

Driver101

14,451 posts

150 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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This gets on my nerves too.

Loads of people now walk out long after the green man has gone, yet they'll just stroll across the road knowing they are making you wait.

Some people just like to be wide.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

284 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Dog Star said:
The spacktards that really get on my tits are the utter, total bellends that will push a pram out into the road between parked vehicles. Utter stupidity.
Invariably young(ish) mothers. I never fail to be amazed and disgusted that they see no problem in using their offspring to try to stop the traffic.

Tonsko

6,299 posts

244 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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yonex said:
Why wouldn't anyone driving stop if they saw people waiting to cross? I can't say I have ever driven through a zebra crossing if there are people standing there?
I'd say two reasons spring to mind initially: They know they don't have to, and are in a (perceived) rush, don't like the look of the ped(!) or simply don't want to, or those that don't know and think, 'fk 'em, they can wait' for no real reason. Both of which, I guess, comes down to consideration of other road users. The lack of which should not be any major surprise if you've been driving for any length of time! smile

Tonsko

6,299 posts

244 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Fair enough.

On Saturday I was crossing on a one way road, 2 lanes. Some had stopped for me to cross and as I was crossing someone in the 2nd lane overtook him whilst he was stationary. If I hadn't seem him coming and stopped half way across the zebra, he would have wiped me out.
Actually, reading this again, that's the exact example the HC gives too! Turns out you were doing the right thing by keeping an eye out. Not that you need validation from a gov't document, and I am in no way trying to be a patronising douche either. beer

rek

145 posts

152 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Worked in Paris for several months... never quite got the hang of the crossings.. Like a game of chicken.

matchmaker

9,040 posts

229 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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swisstoni said:
I always thought that the act of standing at a Zebra Crossing was sufficient to require a car to stop, if safe, and let you across.
Rules now appear to require the pedestrian to actually be on the crossing itself before traffic is required to stop.
Subtle difference but seems less safe for the pedestrian.
It has been the rule for as long as I have been driving - 38 years!

Laser Sag

2,860 posts

272 months

Monday 17th March 2014
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Think I will stick with the principle that if someone is wating at a pedestrian crossing I will stop for them, wouldn't want to have to chance stepping onto it myself so wouldn't expect others to have to.