Mates Who Don't Listen

[Mr Senna]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 03 April 2014 at 13:29

[Rawwr]

But at the end of the day he still has a 12C and I don't, so fair play.

[Dave Hedgehog]

i would buy every magazine with a review of he 650s and made sure i always had one on me when i met him or leave them lying about for him to "find"

[Dracoro]

Sounds like the OP is "gutted" on behalf of his mate but there's nothing to say in his post that his mate is "gutted".

Wants a 12C, knew there was a 650S, got the 12C anyway and is happy with his car.

Is there actually anything to see here? Should we all just move along now

[Garlick]

I wouldn't buy a McLaren myself, but I bet he's happy as Larry regardless.

I'd leave him to enjoy it, if he can afford it he probably doesn't care. Besides, the 'standard' 12C is enough for most of us and will still cause a stir when he parks in the High Street (if he likes that side of ownership too)

Let him revel in his new car, be a good mate.

[Newro]

The 12C (hard top) is quite a bit cheaper and depreciation seems 'reasonable' for that kind of car. Also, I assume there will be a long waiting list on the 650 right now. So if the decision is waiting a year plus on the delivery of a 650 or getting a discounted 12C to drive before the summer comes? You know what, driving a 12C is not such a bad deal at all.

It can always be part exchanged for an upgrade if one wants to. Which means you get to drive the 12C right up to the day the shiny new 650 actually arrives.

And who knows, maybe he just prefers the look of the 12C?

[andy-xr]

Sounds like you're the mate who's not listening, he wanted a 12C, got a 12C. You wanted him to get something else but he'd not asked for your advice, and you just offered it based on what Autocar said?

Edited by andy-xr on Wednesday 2nd April 18:04

[Riknos]

You just sound like a jealous friend to be fair, nothing I hate more than my 'friends' putting me down about something, because a better version exists - let him enjoy his car, he clearly worked hard for it and wanted it.

[Jasandjules]

If I had that car in my garage I'd not be overly distressed about "missing out"....

[forzaminardi]

Broadening it out from the specifics of the OP, I agree that it is irritating when someone takes the time to ask your advice on any matter but then apparently totally disregards it. There is a difference between someone listening to advice, weighing things up but coming to a different conclusion and someone listening to advice and then just going and doing what they wanted to do in the first place anyway.

[Muzzer79]

Rawwr said:

But at the end of the day he still has a 12C and I don't, so fair play.

This.

His 'obselete' 12C is still more McLaren than I have on my drive.

If he's happy with it, leave him be. It's not like it's a bad car.

[Ozzie Osmond]

Whenever you buy a new car there will always be something better coming along in a minute.

Just buy what you want and enjoy it.

[lamboman100]

I had a go in an orange 12C a few weeks ago. It was quick, but fairly anonymous and clinical.

[Shaoxter]

Would he ever actually push the car to the point where he would notice the difference between the 12C and 650S?

[Chebble]

forzaminardi said:

Broadening it out from the specifics of the OP, I agree that it is irritating when someone takes the time to ask your advice on any matter but then apparently totally disregards it. There is a difference between someone listening to advice, weighing things up but coming to a different conclusion and someone listening to advice and then just going and doing what they wanted to do in the first place anyway.

There's nothing wrong with asking for someone's perspective on something, surely? Just because you ask for someone's advice doesn't mean that they have to take it as law.

As others have said, it's one 12C more than I have!

[StuntmanMike]

Your mate must be gutted, what a piece of st he has to put up with.

[Silverbullet767]

First world problems.....

[andy-xr]

forzaminardi said:

Broadening it out from the specifics of the OP, I agree that it is irritating when someone takes the time to ask your advice on any matter but then apparently totally disregards it. There is a difference between someone listening to advice, weighing things up but coming to a different conclusion and someone listening to advice and then just going and doing what they wanted to do in the first place anyway.

Do we know if OP's mate asked him for the advice int'first place?

OP?

[Spitfire2]

Is there a particular reason why you feel your mate should be obliged to go with your wishes? Seems a bit odd to me.

[blearyeyedboy]

OP, but I think you've misunderstood your role as a mate.

You're not there to be a consumer expert and tell your friend what a better choice is, unless he specifically asks. Your role is to appreciate that he's fortunate enough to choose and buy a car he wants. You then nod appreciatively over a couple of beers as he explains why he made a good choice, including the free options he's got. Buying the new car that he wants is a fun thing that he'll want to be proud of and enjoy for a while.

That's the same regardless of whether he's got a £1000 used MX-5 or a brand new McLaren.

He may not have made a wise consumer choice, but if he's happy then don't piss on his chips. Unless he specifically asks you for guidance, let him just enjoy buying his new car and being proud of it.

(When it breaks or he's unhappy about the trade-in price however, it's the done thing to gently mock him. But in the meantime, let the guy have his moment of pride and fun. )