RE: Porsche 911 Targa: Review
RE: Porsche 911 Targa: Review
Thursday 3rd April 2014

Porsche 911 Targa: Review

Another 60s-influenced 911 tested; is the Targa the best of all 911 worlds?



"The new Targa is everything that the 911 can offer in one car." That's certainly one way to grab attention at the press conference. Porsche is confident the latest Targa combines the attributes customers love of the coupe (dynamics mainly) with those from the cabrio (wind in the hair, more on which below) to create quite literally the perfect 991. Compromise-free, viceless, without flaw or foible. Surely even Porsche can't carry that off?

Roof needs 19 seconds to do its thing
Roof needs 19 seconds to do its thing
It's difficult to doubt them on first seeing the Targa. Purely on aesthetics, it has the 'best of both worlds' ideology completely nailed. The 991 cabrio is much improved over previous generations but the Targa makes it look a little dumpy and arse heavy. Compared to the coupe the Targa just appears that little more exotic because of the removable roof section. The retro cues from the original Targa are incorporated well, even the (optional, of course) rear window wiper. And nobody will ever, ever get bored of seeing that unimaginably complex roof do its thing.

First impression
Out on the road the Targa makes an auspicious start. The PDK remains stellar, shifting almost imperceptibly in auto and delivering shifts precisely on demand in manual. As PH is old fashioned and still values involvement (plus the 991 manual is supposedly less obstinate now than at launch), we would forego the PDK. And be pretty much alone in doing so, we'd wager.

PCCB mandatory on yellow cars. That's not true
PCCB mandatory on yellow cars. That's not true
Enjoying the Targa's excellent mooching abilities led to a humiliating mugging at the hands of another pair of hacks early in the launch route. But being passed by another Targa is simply an excuse to enjoy looking at it again; 911s with wide rear arches really do just work, don't they? The styling will probably clinch it for many prospective Targa buyers. And yes, we overtook the other car back.

But for those that, heaven forbid, may want their 911 as a driver's car, the Targa's apparently impenetrable armour reveals some chinks. It takes a little while though.

Scorchio
With so much GT3 discussion at the moment and its, ahem, scorching performance, it's easy to forget what a special engine the regular 3.8-litre 'S' motor is. Though not endowed with bountiful torque, its willingness to rev renders that trait immaterial. From 3,000rpm it's well into its stride, there's another surge just before '5' and it absolutely howls through the last 1,000rpm or so. It's glorious.

Wind noise spoils the fun out here
Wind noise spoils the fun out here
Or it would be, if the engine could be heard. Alright, that's exaggerating the situation slightly but the Targa's wind noise is almost insufferable. At 40mph it's annoying and then it becomes gradually more intrusive to the point of spoiling enjoyment. It seems to flood in around the roll hoop; the small deflector at the top of the screen can be raised to very marginally improve the situation but the change is minor. A fellow journalist complained of feeling cold after a prolonged period with the roof down and the air-con at a sensible temperature. This was Bari too, where it was at least 20 degrees outside. Blatting down by the coast, running third gear from below 3,000rpm to its stunning upper reaches should have been brilliant but the wind interference became infuriating.

Of course raising the roof alleviates the problem entirely but this is fundamentally against the Targa ethos, isn't it? That wraparound rear screen does at least afford some decent visibility but it's rather absurd to enjoy driving an open Porsche more with the roof up. That appears the unfortunate truth in the Targa's case.

Will that matter when it looks like this?
Will that matter when it looks like this?
Blown away
Porsche didn't have any coupes or cabrios to directly compare with the Targa out in Italy but the test would surely have proved fascinating. It was only reasonable to expect that the fancy roof to incur a weight penalty over the coupe, but it's also 40kg more than the cabriolet. So much for possessing the dynamics of a coupe, it's 110kg heavier than the equivalent hard top!

The 911 Targa is not a bad car, far from it, but it appears compromised in an exemplary 911 line-up. Relatively speaking. It's significantly more expensive than the coupe but carries a lot more weight, and is frustrating with the roof down where a cabrio (with the wind deflector) surely wouldn't be. Don't forget the Targa is only £647 less than the cabrio too and £8K more than 4WD coupes.

Targas have typically accounted for 10 per cent of 911 sales, a figure Porsche expects to rise slightly with this latest generation. Given how it looks they're right to be optimistic. From a driving perspective though a coupe remains the purist choice while the cabrio does the open air thing more convincingly than any open 911 has done before. Leaving the Targa slightly in the middle ground and struggling to match function to its admittedly alluring form.


PORSCHE 911 TARGA 4
Engine:
3,436cc flat-six
Power (hp): 350@7,400rpm
Torque (lb ft): 288@5,600rpm
0-62mph: 5.2 sec (5.0 with PDK, 4.8 with PDK and Sport Chrono)
Top speed: 175mph (174mph)
MPG: 29.7 (32.5) NEDC combined
CO2: 223g/km (204)
Kerbweight: 1,540kg (1,560kg) DIN empty
Price: £86,281

PORSCHE 911 TARGA 4 S
Engine:
3,800cc flat-six
Power (hp): 400@7,400rpm
Torque (lb ft): 325@5,600rpm
0-62mph: 4.8 sec (4.6 with PDK, 4.4 with PDK and Sport Chrono)
Top speed: 184mph (183mph)
MPG: 28.2 (30.7) NEDC combined
CO2: 237g/km (214)
Kerbweight: 1,555kg (1,575) DIN empty
Price: £96,316

Figures in brackets for PDK.









 

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Discussion

P4ROT

Original Poster:

1,219 posts

222 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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I think these are stunning- just the right mix of retro and modern. The roof is very clever as well (reminds me of the first time I saw an R230 SL roof working).

EDIT: But then I am a Porsche nut and completely biased...

kambites

71,459 posts

250 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Stylistically, I think it looks quite a lot better than the cabrio.

British Beef

2,572 posts

194 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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I agree, best looking 911 currently on sale. I bet 99% of owners wouldnt notice the dynamic flaws relative to its coupe sibling.

Will they make a Turbo Targa?

kambites

71,459 posts

250 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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British Beef said:
Will they make a Turbo Targa?
It would certainly make sense, given the turbo's more GTing nature.

J B L

4,217 posts

244 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Love it.

sjp63

1,997 posts

301 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Love it, but the wind noise that the review talks about would put me off

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Significant wind intrusion would do my head in, so on that basis wink ah'm oot.

Zoin

128 posts

169 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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My 996 targa has the same problem - at exactly the same speed (40mph), wind noise becomes annoyingly noticable and progressively intrusive the faster you go, to the point that the MX-5 mk2.5 is quieter at motorway speeds roof down.
I'd thought there was something wrong with my roof but if the 991 has the same problem, perhaps not. You'd think they'd have sorted it out two generations later.
Disappointing in what should be the best of both worlds.

BarringtonBrown

89 posts

190 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Surely this has to be the most aesthetically 'right' 911 shape for almost two decades? Stunner.

Bonefish Blues

36,430 posts

252 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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What's wrong with manually unclipping a roof panel and stowing it, or has man lost that ability? Car is lighter, simpler and more reliable, but I guess that's not the modern way.

Does look lovely, mind.

ftrigger

78 posts

153 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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I like the look a lot but I'm struggling to see the appeal of the "complicated roof thing" past the novelty effect.
Surely the powered mechanism must be adding significant weight, and will be an expensive nightmare to fix when it goes all wrong in 10-15 years time ( probably being generous here ).

torres del paine

1,588 posts

250 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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kambites said:
Stylistically, I think it looks quite a lot better than the cabrio.
Indeed, cabrio 911s are ugly IMO and inferior too.

This thing though, it really works; a well judged blend of retro and new, which suits the 991 shape perfectly.

It looks lovely in yellow.

Zoin

128 posts

169 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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ftrigger said:
... will be an expensive nightmare to fix when it goes all wrong in 10-15 years time ( probably being generous here ).
The 996 targa roof is a lot less complex but I've been quoted 1.5k just for new cables. Apparently full replacement of the roof mechanism would be around 4.5k, at indie prices.
Triple that for this complex new mechanism?

Roma101

859 posts

176 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Sorry, but I'm not feeling the visual love. I think it looks very awkward and almost toy-like. Much prefer the looks of the cabrio and the coupe.

Doshy

861 posts

246 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Feeling the love for that. Want.

Davey S2

13,394 posts

283 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Bonefish Blues said:
What's wrong with manually unclipping a roof panel and stowing it, or has man lost that ability?
When man is paying £100K its not unreasonable for him to expect this to be done for him. After all it's not a track focussed GT model where weight is an important factor.

Bonefish Blues

36,430 posts

252 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Davey S2 said:
When man is paying £100K its not unreasonable for him to expect this to be done for him. After all it's not a track focussed GT model where weight is an important factor.
I am not only richer but also considerably lazier than yow, eh hehe

Krikkit

27,938 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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sjp63 said:
Love it, but the wind noise that the review talks about would put me off
Me too - for knocking on 100k that's a real deal-breaker.

Dazed & Confused

209 posts

233 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Roma101 said:
Sorry, but I'm not feeling the visual love. I think it looks very awkward and almost toy-like. Much prefer the looks of the cabrio and the coupe.
You are absolutely entitled to your own opinion.

It's wrong, but you're still entitled to it. wink

Roma101

859 posts

176 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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[quote=Dazed & Confused]
Roma101 said:
Sorry, but I'm not feeling the visual love. I think it looks very awkward and almost toy-like. Much prefer the looks of the cabrio and the coupe.
You are absolutely entitled to your own opinion.

It's wrong, but you're still entitled to it. wink
Ha-ha. I know!