MOTs why do people get worried?
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When I grew up the MOT event was always interesting lots of weekends before hand dad under the car me as a nipper handing him tools full service full brake strip down and will those tyres get through or not etc.
Fast forward to now and still people get worried about MOTs - this is a very basic test of car safety and road worthiness and is the bare minimum standard a car should be every single day of the year not just scrape through then not fix those advisories and then next year comes round will it get through... Dd you fix the advisories have you done all the basic checks and are you maintaining it /servicing it?
I wonder when road safety will start to focus on increasing the min tread depth to 3mm to decrease stopping distance in the wet and also upping the MOT requirements thus improving the road worthiness of cars.
Fast forward to now and still people get worried about MOTs - this is a very basic test of car safety and road worthiness and is the bare minimum standard a car should be every single day of the year not just scrape through then not fix those advisories and then next year comes round will it get through... Dd you fix the advisories have you done all the basic checks and are you maintaining it /servicing it?
I wonder when road safety will start to focus on increasing the min tread depth to 3mm to decrease stopping distance in the wet and also upping the MOT requirements thus improving the road worthiness of cars.
Edited by Welshbeef on Sunday 6th April 20:12
Mots should be a lot stricter. I work in a mot testing garage and you would be amazed and what is allowed to be a pass for mot purposes but should be replaced.
I don't get why people worry about it well I do because if it fails they have to spend money on something that is on themselves specially women but some men too. These days people don't like spending money on cars they see routine maintenance as a way for garages to rip them off. But then moan like f
k when the neglected maintenance causes bigger problems.
I don't get why people worry about it well I do because if it fails they have to spend money on something that is on themselves specially women but some men too. These days people don't like spending money on cars they see routine maintenance as a way for garages to rip them off. But then moan like f
k when the neglected maintenance causes bigger problems. balls-out said:
Because stupid emissions test might mean loads of money on a new cat 
So you want to breath in nasty toxic emissions emitted by petrol and diesel engines. Wouldn't like to live in big cities glad I live in more rural area. Having to run diesel engine especially on the ramp for oil changes etc not very pleasant to work around it specially in a closed environment. Welshbeef said:
When I grew up the a bus event was always interesting lots of weekends before hand dad under the car me as a nipper handing him tools full service full brake strip down and will those tyres get through or not etc. s.
I've read that 5 times but can't work out what it says........
iva cosworth said:
Welshbeef said:
When I grew up the a bus event was always interesting lots of weekends before hand dad under the car me as a nipper handing him tools full service full brake strip down and will those tyres get through or not etc. s.
I've read that 5 times but can't work out what it says........BFG TERRANO said:
It doesn't worry me but the advisories confuse me! Things mentioned 1 year then not the next. Slight body corrosion and corroded fuel tank strap to name just two. They didn't just disappear between mots!
Because it's testers opinion some tester tend to fail more marginal things than advise, others advise more than fail. Some will try and do it to get more work but that is on the low percentage of testers out there.Vosa though set out some really conflict fails and non fails one example is srs light if the light is on it's a fail but if it doesn't come on at all even for a self test it's pass and advise. For abs if the light doesn't do a self test it will fail.
Another is cats on petrol's if the car is made before 92 uk spec and 94-5 import it doesn't require a cat test nor is it a fail to have a missing cat even if it came with one from factory. A diesel however must have a cat fitted where fitted from the factory even though during the test a car can pass the emissions without it fitted as it only test for smoke.
There are more than that this is what ive got from the mot testers at work not one myself.
MG CHRIS said:
iva cosworth said:
Welshbeef said:
When I grew up the a bus event was always interesting lots of weekends before hand dad under the car me as a nipper handing him tools full service full brake strip down and will those tyres get through or not etc. s.
I've read that 5 times but can't work out what it says........Punters get worried because -- rightly or wrongly -- garages have a reputation for using MOTs (and services and recalls) as a way to make up stuff and ripoff customers. Brakepads with thousands of miles left need replacing, inflation kit has suddenly gone missing from the trunk and you'd best order a new one etc. etc. Your chequebook is in their hands.
MG CHRIS said:
iva cosworth said:
Welshbeef said:
When I grew up the a bus event was always interesting lots of weekends before hand dad under the car me as a nipper handing him tools full service full brake strip down and will those tyres get through or not etc. s.
I've read that 5 times but can't work out what it says........Geekman said:
There's plenty of things a car can fail on that shouldn't make it unroadworthy. ABS lights, airbag lights, traction control lights etc
Those lights aren't on for fun you know? They indicate a problem with a safety critcal system. If there was a "seatbelt light" indicating that your seatbelt might not operate in a crash, would you ignore it?mrmr96 said:
Those lights aren't on for fun you know? They indicate a problem with a safety critcal system. If there was a "seatbelt light" indicating that your seatbelt might not operate in a crash, would you ignore it?
I believe seatbelts are important. Traction control and ABS aren't really. They're nice to have (and function perfectly on my cars), but I've driven cars without them fitted and I'm still alive. Unless you're suggesting banning all the older cars without those systems fitted from the road, making them an MOT failure on cars with them fitted is ridiculous. A lot of cars with those systems have skinny tyres, weak brakes etc. I'd feel far safer in my XJ6 with it's large tyres and good brakes even if the ABS wasn't working than I would in a C1 with ABS.
On a slightly off topic note, it's just occurred to me that the only times I've had the ABS activate on either of my cars is when I've decided to slam on the brakes and see if it works!
Geekman said:
I believe seatbelts are important. Traction control and ABS aren't really. They're nice to have (and function perfectly on my cars), but I've driven cars without them fitted and I'm still alive. Unless you're suggesting banning all the older cars without those systems fitted from the road, making them an MOT failure on cars with them fitted is ridiculous.
A lot of cars with those systems have skinny tyres, weak brakes etc. I'd feel far safer in my XJ6 with it's large tyres and good brakes even if the ABS wasn't working than I would in a C1 with ABS.
On a slightly off topic note, it's just occurred to me that the only times I've had the ABS activate on either of my cars is when I've decided to slam on the brakes and see if it works!
But isn't the fact that ESP will become standard over all cars which is aided by abs and traction control so is a key safety feature - we've all seen the videos of ESP v non with Tiff at the wheel its the next big step to reduce accidents. A lot of cars with those systems have skinny tyres, weak brakes etc. I'd feel far safer in my XJ6 with it's large tyres and good brakes even if the ABS wasn't working than I would in a C1 with ABS.
On a slightly off topic note, it's just occurred to me that the only times I've had the ABS activate on either of my cars is when I've decided to slam on the brakes and see if it works!
I'd imagine this is possibly the reason for it?
MG CHRIS said:
Because it's testers opinion some tester tend to fail more marginal things than advise, others advise more than fail. Some will try and do it to get more work but that is on the low percentage of testers out there.
Vosa though set out some really conflict fails and non fails one example is srs light if the light is on it's a fail but if it doesn't come on at all even for a self test it's pass and advise. For abs if the light doesn't do a self test it will fail.
Another is cats on petrol's if the car is made before 92 uk spec and 94-5 import it doesn't require a cat test nor is it a fail to have a missing cat even if it came with one from factory. A diesel however must have a cat fitted where fitted from the factory even though during the test a car can pass the emissions without it fitted as it only test for smoke.
There are more than that this is what ive got from the mot testers at work not one myself.
Yes it's the testers opinion. So, my little £500 mx5. It passed its mot last year with 2 advisories. I didn't fix them as it's a cheap car and one day will become a kit car, when's its rusty/ crashed/ whateverVosa though set out some really conflict fails and non fails one example is srs light if the light is on it's a fail but if it doesn't come on at all even for a self test it's pass and advise. For abs if the light doesn't do a self test it will fail.
Another is cats on petrol's if the car is made before 92 uk spec and 94-5 import it doesn't require a cat test nor is it a fail to have a missing cat even if it came with one from factory. A diesel however must have a cat fitted where fitted from the factory even though during the test a car can pass the emissions without it fitted as it only test for smoke.
There are more than that this is what ive got from the mot testers at work not one myself.
Last week, one year on. Same tester, same garage, same car. The old 2 advisories missing and 3 new ones in place. Admittedly one of those is on a refreshed part (new tyres worn on outer edge after track day), but that's still 2 magically fixed items and two new ones in place.
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