Is any saloon cool?
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Bill

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Monday 7th April 2014
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Following from this thread discussing saloons vs estates.

I'd say saloons are never cool. They can be good looking, competent, brilliant to drive or blisteringly quick but not actually "cool".

Think of the TG test: you are picking up a non-car loving date, you arrive in your saloon of choice... Would she think it's cool? Would she even notice??

An exception might be a classic of some description, so we'll ignore them. biggrin

f1nn

2,694 posts

221 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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I'd say they can be.

Aston and Maserati make saloons that Ithink a girl would be impressed with.

I think an e34 M5, Lotus Carlton, Sapphire Cosworth, RS4, C63 and countless other 4 doors are cool.

Bill

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284 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Forgot the poll banghead

pembo

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222 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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In it's day the Alfa 156 was pretty cool.. well everyone seemed to think so when I got mine 10 years ago at 19

chunoo

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264 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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If a Maserati Quattroporte ain't cool, i don't know what is...

Monty Python

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226 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Lotus Carlton, M5, RS4

Monkeylegend

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260 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Chill out wink

BL Fanboy

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171 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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I think on balance, Saloons are cooler for me because all I know is Estates are practical, Hatchbacks are practical.

Saloons are more associated with luxury - you can get a more refined cabin, stiffer body (aides refinement) and its more compromised as a design i.e you can do less with it as a car.

Anything that's expensive (cars in general) and is compromised over a "do it all" car such as an estate or hatchback is more exclusive therefore cooler?

Bill

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Monday 7th April 2014
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Impressed with isn't the same as cool, although the QP may be close. The others aren't cool unless you're a car nerd.

Bill

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Monday 7th April 2014
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Monkeylegend said:
Chill out wink
But they don't get it furious


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Captain Muppet

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294 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Depends on whether you use SAE coolness or the BS EN standard.

Although obviously any car that is warmer than cold but colder than warm can be said to be cool, regardless of number of doors or badge.

kambites

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250 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Captain Muppet said:
Depends on whether you use SAE coolness or the BS EN standard.

Although obviously any car that is warmer than cold but colder than warm can be said to be cool, regardless of number of doors or badge.
I think most are just tepid, to be honest.

Captain Muppet

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Monday 7th April 2014
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Bill said:
Impressed with isn't the same as cool, although the QP may be close. The others aren't cool unless you're a car nerd.
The Citroen DS is a design icon even amongst people who know nothing about cars. Whether it's cool or not is impossible to say because its a rediculously subjective thing to attempt to measure.

SebastienClement

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169 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Of course saloons are cool. For the purposes of this thread, there are some which can be ruled out entirely though. The current Mercedes saloons are not up to much at all. Likewise, the current BMW series of saloons seem to be 'styled' to hide their 'saloony-ness'. Not cool. other non-cool saloon cars include: Jaguar X/S type, Skoda Superb, VW Passat, That Infiniti thing etc...

Top end luxo-barges should also be excluded from this discussion. That's a separate topic, as they're much more difficult to get right, and non of the modern options 'tick the boxes' for me anyway.

These two vehicles are the definition of a cool saloon car:





okie592

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196 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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okie592

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Monday 7th April 2014
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Have you ever seen a Citroen c6 and not though my god that's epic?




I also think a rs6 saloon in black is amazing, remapped to 800bhp?

BMW must think they are cool since they are turning saloons into coupes and then coupes into saloons again? Ala 6gt.

Edited by okie592 on Monday 7th April 09:28

Bill

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Monday 7th April 2014
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Captain Muppet said:
The Citroen DS is a design icon even amongst people who know nothing about cars. Whether it's cool or not is impossible to say because its a rediculously subjective thing to attempt to measure.
I did mention classics...

shiftydave

247 posts

193 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Bill said:
Following from this thread discussing saloons vs estates.

I'd say saloons are never cool. They can be good looking, competent, brilliant to drive or blisteringly quick but not actually "cool".

Think of the TG test: you are picking up a non-car loving date, you arrive in your saloon of choice... Would she think it's cool? Would she even notice??

An exception might be a classic of some description, so we'll ignore them. biggrin
The right saloon can impress a lady date, the right estate can impress a man date.

NotNormal

2,422 posts

243 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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I believe the Mini is normally referred to as cool during Pistonheads debates and it's classed as a saloon




jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

169 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Does anyone on PH actually include perceived 'coolness' as a factor when buying cars?

I doubt I could care much less what other people think of the cars I buy.