S2000 for a year or E46 Convertible to keep? Or Other?
S2000 for a year or E46 Convertible to keep? Or Other?
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Pryors

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18 posts

149 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Hi All,

Have done a lot of reading and would like some views on my situation.

Current car - MK4 Golf TDI 115 - Irish model called 'Comfort-line' Cloth seats 108,000 miles.

Drive to work - 10 mins countryside (mud on roads, twisty, sheep!) 10 mins dual carriage way. Option of all B-Roads (nice drive but tractors HGV slow it down).

I have wanted an S2000 for a long time and now I can afford the insurance I was ready to go for it. Problem is, we are looking to start a family and I would probably have to sell it next year. Enter the E46 330d Convertible, a different beast but respectable 0-60, top down fun and 4 seats - 40 mpg - bonus!

I have argued that I could keep the Golf and have the S2000 for fun but we would have 3 cars ... I just don't know what to do.

Budget is £5,500 for an S2K or £7,000 for a car I would have as my daily drive.

I have looked at A4 Cab Quattro, any other suggestions?

Looking for a car that is fun to drive on the twisties.

Cheers

crispyshark

1,272 posts

174 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Keep the Golf as the runaround and go for an S2000. £5k is a fair whack to pay for one these days (older models anyhow), especially if you are only going to have the car for a year or so. Go for a cheaper one (check out S2KI for cars for sale there), make sure it's not rusty and the oil has been kept topped up/changed regularly and the bushes have been done.

The S2K is a cracking car and you will have lots of fun....watch out for the muddy country roads though, no traction control on the early ones (where you will be looking price wise).

Hold a bit of money back and when the pitter pattering of little feet come, sell the S2K and the golf and get something sensible....like a Subaru Impreza! wink

PS the S2K will easily return 30mpg+

LukeDM

467 posts

152 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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What about an E46 330 petrol? The M Sport models look fantastic and you would be surprised at the MPG you can achieve if you need to!

Mave

8,217 posts

244 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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LukeDM said:
What about an E46 330 petrol? The M Sport models look fantastic and you would be surprised at the MPG you can achieve if you need to!
Agreed, get one for 4-5k, and have most of the s2000 fun most of the time, instead of a bit more fun occasionally...

Pryors

Original Poster:

18 posts

149 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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crispyshark said:
Keep the Golf as the runaround and go for an S2000. £5k is a fair whack to pay for one these days (older models anyhow), especially if you are only going to have the car for a year or so. Go for a cheaper one (check out S2KI for cars for sale there), make sure it's not rusty and the oil has been kept topped up/changed regularly and the bushes have been done.

The S2K is a cracking car and you will have lots of fun....watch out for the muddy country roads though, no traction control on the early ones (where you will be looking price wise).

Hold a bit of money back and when the pitter pattering of little feet come, sell the S2K and the golf and get something sensible....like a Subaru Impreza! wink

PS the S2K will easily return 30mpg+
That's kind of where I am heading but I am struggling to find a decent S2000 anywhere near me!there are silly modded sheds for £3500 then the next ones are £5999!
I will keep saving and looking.

Does the convertible E46 330i not drink fuel then? Thought it would being so heavy?!

StuntmanMike

15,009 posts

180 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Pryors said:
crispyshark said:
Keep the Golf as the runaround and go for an S2000. £5k is a fair whack to pay for one these days (older models anyhow), especially if you are only going to have the car for a year or so. Go for a cheaper one (check out S2KI for cars for sale there), make sure it's not rusty and the oil has been kept topped up/changed regularly and the bushes have been done.

The S2K is a cracking car and you will have lots of fun....watch out for the muddy country roads though, no traction control on the early ones (where you will be looking price wise).

Hold a bit of money back and when the pitter pattering of little feet come, sell the S2K and the golf and get something sensible....like a Subaru Impreza! wink

PS the S2K will easily return 30mpg+
That's kind of where I am heading but I am struggling to find a decent S2000 anywhere near me!there are silly modded sheds for £3500 then the next ones are £5999!
I will keep saving and looking.

Does the convertible E46 330i not drink fuel then? Thought it would being so heavy?!
My 330 is firmly stuck on 23 mpg at the minute, you can get good mpg but you have to be the slowest on the road, I would take the S2000 personnel as the E46 is pretty dull for what it is.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

180 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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S2000.
Do a few track days, have some fun.
Then sell it on. smile

It's a great road car, but if you can get it in a track day then it'll be much more fun.

crispyshark

1,272 posts

174 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Pryors said:
That's kind of where I am heading but I am struggling to find a decent S2000 anywhere near me!there are silly modded sheds for £3500 then the next ones are £5999!
I will keep saving and looking.

Does the convertible E46 330i not drink fuel then? Thought it would being so heavy?!
It's a waiting game....one thing I would say is, don't be afraid of high mileage. If the car has been looked after as I said before, the engines will go on for a good while.

It seems the market has bottomed out with them.

Pryors

Original Poster:

18 posts

149 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Thank you all for you advice, I think I will always be looking for an S2K!

I nearly bought one from a S2Ki member for £7,500 but the loan got offered at 21% so I didn't go for it.

As soon as my credit file updates to show I have paid off my credit card I will be looking at them again... still to drive one!

Any other car suggestions for that kind of drive?

crispyshark

1,272 posts

174 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Pryors said:
Thank you all for you advice, I think I will always be looking for an S2K!

I nearly bought one from a S2Ki member for £7,500 but the loan got offered at 21% so I didn't go for it.

As soon as my credit file updates to show I have paid off my credit card I will be looking at them again... still to drive one!

Any other car suggestions for that kind of drive?
If you’re willing to take the risk on something going wrong, a 986 Boxster S could be found for that money. Or, if you can stretch up to £12k then the Z4M is always worth a look.

Have you considered an Elise?

As a package, in terms of practicality/reliability/cost if something goes wrong and criteria of a 2 seater sports car, the S2K will be hard to beat.

Pryors

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18 posts

149 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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I went done the looking at a Porsche route when I noticed you can get a Cayman S for £12k!! I know its not a convertible but I love the looks and would consider giving up the fold down for one of them!! But then I read of random misfires and things going wrong with mainly '06 cars and around 60-70k miles...which is the description of nearly all the £12-£14 Caymans!

Think I will get the money together and bite the bullet with the S2000!

Iklwa

283 posts

158 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Pryors said:
I went done the looking at a Porsche route when I noticed you can get a Cayman S for £12k!! I know its not a convertible but I love the looks and would consider giving up the fold down for one of them!! But then I read of random misfires and things going wrong with mainly '06 cars and around 60-70k miles...which is the description of nearly all the £12-£14 Caymans!

Think I will get the money together and bite the bullet with the S2000!
The Porsche is a whole other level of running costs compared to an S2000. One thing to think about with an S2000, in the (many) miserable months of bad weather, you will only be extracting about 50% of the potential fun, and they really are not great on bumpy, uneven, or muddy roads.

I know it would be more boring, but Id go for an Integra Type-R (the newer version) as a compromise between daily driving and having a bit of fun. Actually, my money would go towards a Golf GTi, but you've done the Golf thing so probably not a big enough change.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

275 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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E46 convertibles are IMO very fine cars for the real world.

ross-co

411 posts

214 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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I found my 330ci Msport disappointing and averages around 18mpg over the 15 thousand miles and 11 months i had it.

It was not what i thought it would be like, add the weight of the convertible and I cant imagine its much fun.

Pryors

Original Poster:

18 posts

149 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Iklwa said:
The Porsche is a whole other level of running costs compared to an S2000. One thing to think about with an S2000, in the (many) miserable months of bad weather, you will only be extracting about 50% of the potential fun, and they really are not great on bumpy, uneven, or muddy roads.

I know it would be more boring, but Id go for an Integra Type-R (the newer version) as a compromise between daily driving and having a bit of fun. Actually, my money would go towards a Golf GTi, but you've done the Golf thing so probably not a big enough change.
I've been looking at the Integra but the price is comparable to the S2000 and it looks like a younger persons car.

What year GTI would you be recommending? I had the MK2 8v GTI and it was my favorite car. The Golf I have now corners like a bag of bricks ha!

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

275 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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The Crack Fox said:
ross-co said:
I found my 330ci Msport disappointing and averages around 18mpg over the 15 thousand miles and 11 months i had it.
Perhaps it was kaputt? Mine averaged 29.6MPG over the 5 years I owned it, including a trackday, and I never hung about.
Agreed. No way 18 mpg average from an E46.

Studio117

4,250 posts

220 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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The rear seats on e46 cabs are small. I'm not particularly tall and struggled to get in the back.

crispyshark

1,272 posts

174 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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The Crack Fox said:
Perhaps it was kaputt? Mine averaged 29.6MPG over the 5 years I owned it, including a trackday, and I never hung about. It was boring, though.

OP, can I suggest keeping the Golf for sensible family duties, not borrowing money for an S2000 which is still depreciating and likely to lob you in a ditch if you're not careful, and get a cheapo MX-5 which is the perfect cheapo b-road blaster. smile

Good luck.
I was wondering how long it would be before an MX5 was mentioned! wink

Pryors

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18 posts

149 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Thought about MX-5 - they still have a bit of a stigma though not that I'm arsed! Mk1?

crispyshark

1,272 posts

174 months

Monday 7th April 2014
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Pryors said:
Thought about MX-5 - they still have a bit of a stigma though not that I'm arsed! Mk1?
I you get an MX5 you will always wonder about the S2000....that's why I moved from one to tother. Mk1 is a great car though. No where near the performance of the Honda unless a snail or a blower strapped on.