Spraying wheels - How many cans required?
Spraying wheels - How many cans required?
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TroubledSoul

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4,666 posts

223 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Got a set of wheels, 2x15" and 2x16" to refurb. Looking at using some E-Tech wheel paint in 400ml cans.

Any ideas how many to buy in? Also, a good primer to use would be welcome if anyone knows of one. I've read that Halfords paint is like waiting for Christmas when it comes to curing.

I plan to Nitromors the current flat paint off, then rub down and repair any defects.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

233 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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I did 4 x 14 inch wheels and needed 2 x 400ml cans of paint and a bit more lacquer. Used Halfords primer which was fine, dry in about 20-30 minutes

TroubledSoul

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4,666 posts

223 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Cheers. Apparently it goes touch dry quite quickly, but will easily mark such as if you press a fingernail into it etc.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

233 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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yup, but tbh the lacquer hardening was the longest wait, was fine to paint over the primer fairly quickly as long as nothing was going to be in contact with it

Dog Star

17,556 posts

197 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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I allow 1 can for 2 wheels (400ml) and half as much lacquer.

You might want to see how smooth you can get the existing finish by sanding with progressively finer grades of sandpaper, as I've got myself into a world of pain in the past by stripping stuff.

jagnet

4,442 posts

231 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Bilt Hamber etch and high build primers are very good, as are the U-Pol products.

I prefer to avoid Nitromors and just rub down. Anything that won't easily sand off clearly still has a good bond and it avoids any worries over contamination remaining if not washed off thoroughly and dried even more thoroughly.

The last set of wheels I did, which were 17" ones and were completely resprayed (not just the front faces) used 5 cans of paint, 4 cans of lacquer, 1 can of etch and 3 high build.

TroubledSoul

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4,666 posts

223 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Great, just the sort of info I was after.

Never used etch before but my understanding is that would be the very first layer on after sanding, right?

jagnet

4,442 posts

231 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Yes, you need that to get a good bond on the metal.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

210 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Dog Star said:
You might want to see how smooth you can get the existing finish by sanding with progressively finer grades of sandpaper, as I've got myself into a world of pain in the past by stripping stuff.
Agreed - I had very good results just keying the surface of a set of wheels, then Halfords primer and a few of their top coats/lacquer. It was much less work than a complete strip-down, and gave as near a perfect finish as I could ever manage by hand.

TroubledSoul

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223 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Krikkit said:
Agreed - I had very good results just keying the surface of a set of wheels, then Halfords primer and a few of their top coats/lacquer. It was much less work than a complete strip-down, and gave as near a perfect finish as I could ever manage by hand.
That will do for me.

I'll read through a good guide once I'm ready to go, but how many coats of Etch would you guys recommend?

jagnet

4,442 posts

231 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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It only needs the one coat, then primer. If you later go through the primer when rubbing down and end up exposing the alloy, apply more etch to the exposed area and build up the primer again.

robdcfc

525 posts

187 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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I normally find that i drink at least 2 cans per wheel.

J4CKO

46,824 posts

229 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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I find I can get a good result with rattle cans but it never lasts as long as the original finish.

Squiggs

1,520 posts

184 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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robdcfc said:
I normally find that i drink at least 2 cans per wheel.
hehe So no more than 2 full sets per day then ... beer

robdcfc

525 posts

187 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Have to restrict intake somehow Glenn!!

HaloGen8

1,413 posts

158 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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As has already been said a 400ml can would do two wheels and allow more for the clear coat to seal the finish.

I'd support the rubbing down part. Trying to strip an alloy is an evil task to get right unless you have the proper gear.

A good flatting back and steady even coats should see you right. Just take your time and if you can get the rims indoors to help the curing process.....although it doesn't always go down well smile

Squiggs

1,520 posts

184 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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robdcfc said:
Have to restrict intake somehow Glenn!!
Rob you're a light weight!
I didn't do any today - but so far tonight I have pretended that I've done two and I'm just about to imagine starting my third drink

Depthhoar

690 posts

157 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Refurbed a winter set of 4 16" BMW 'Turbine'-style alloys last year and used 1 can of etch primer, 1 can of high build grey primer, 2 silver base & 2 lacquer - all 400ml. Could have got away with less paint but I was refurbing both sides of the wheels and there are a lot of nooks and crannies in that particular design of wheel (a lot of awkward rubbing down).

All the products were Upol 1k paints and I was pretty pleased with the results, although I've just noticed that the lacquer has dulled a fraction since it was done last summer.

Have the same job to do this year on the summer set of rims (Turbines again, front and back) and will be trying a 2k lacquer in rattle cans which I hope will give me a more durable finish. The 2k stuff needs using with care and a proper air-fed face mask will be needed.

The Surveyor

7,624 posts

266 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Why not just get them properly refurbished?

If they're going on something nice, spend the extra few quid and get them properly stripped and powder coated, if they're going on a shed, all that prepping, primer, top coats and lacquer are a waste of money. At that rate, DIY is going to cost you £80 in paint where a professional job which will last years longer and be only circa £200.

Paul

DrDeAtH

3,699 posts

261 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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... Can of '5 wheel silver'

Do they sell it anymore?