RE: Under the hammer: De Tomaso Pantera
RE: Under the hammer: De Tomaso Pantera
Thursday 1st May 2014

Under the hammer: De Tomaso Pantera

RM Auctions is selling a rally-spec Pantera without reserve next week; what else is out there?



So, we've moved from one underrated Italian classic to another. Last week I was salivating at the prospect of finding a cheap Maserati Biturbo, and this week, I'm getting misty-eyed at the De Tomaso Pantera. I know what you're thinking - I'm taking my leave of my senses... Perhaps, but if you're brave, and don't stand too much on ceremony, a Pantera will dole out lashings of white-knuckle fun, and will get you into all the smartest events, for a fraction of the cost of a comparable Ferrari or Lamborghini.

Not exactly a conventional rally car...
Not exactly a conventional rally car...
But conventional wisdom says that they are cheap for a reason. The know-alls will tell you they're flawed dynamically, rusty, unreliable, and have brutish American V8 power instead of the more sophisticated Italian alternative. And that Elvis Presley shot his. All of these things may be true to one degree or another, but I love them, and think that the De Tomaso Pantera is set to take a value hike sooner rather than later, as buyers looking for some '70s supercar cool latch on to it.

Before I go into the nitty gritty, the reason for my Pantera lust was catching sight of this bonkers 1973 car that's been prepared for historic rallying - to FIA specification - that's up for sale at RM Auctions' Monaco sale on 10 May for an estimated 50,000-70,000 euros. And it's being sold without reserve.

You might think that the Pantera's an odd choice to take to gravel - and in truth, I also think it's so silly it's beyond reason - but given that it's following in the footsteps of its contemporary rival, the Ferrari 308GTB Group 4, as a rallying supercar, then there's a chance it might work. Perhaps.

Estimate is just 50-70,000 euros
Estimate is just 50-70,000 euros
Aside from looking too damned cool for school, the De Tomaso rally could go well in tarmac events - it's certainly fast enough. It doesn't appear to have too much done to it over the 'standard' (ha!) Pantera Group 4, so you get a tuned Cleveland V8, full roll cage, Sparco racing seats, and, er, that's about it. But most importantly, with that FIA paperwork, this Pantera will get you onto some pretty serious events. It's already competed in the 2014 Monte Carlo Historic Rally.

And if it goes for the price that RM anticipates - and I suspect it's a tad on the low side - that's a hell of a lot of car for the money. Yes, the Pantera might not have a thoroughbred engine that you'd find in a Ferrari or Lamborghini, but in all other senses, it's a proper Italian supercar. So forget the 'mongrel' jibes, as the Pantera looks, feels, and drives like a supercar of the '70s - and it shouldn't be long before it's priced like one.

Not exactly pure, but this sold for £19K
Not exactly pure, but this sold for £19K
Its predecessor, the Mangusta, used to be a relative bargain, with similar prices to this Pantera, up to about six or seven years ago. And now, they're a £200,000-plus car, and rising fast. Okay, so there were 401 Mangustas built compared with 7,260 Panteras that rolled out of Italy, but the younger car lived a lot longer, and in its own way was just as infamous as its super-lairy and near-incomparably beautiful predecessor. They don't go under the hammer very often, and when they do, they tend to go for bargain money in the heat of the auction room.

All of which means that they can be had for much cheaper than our cool rallying version, if you don't want to go down the PH Classifieds route. Last September, and perhaps more indicative of how much of a bargain these cars can be, Dorset Vintage and Classic Auctions hammered out a 1973 example with less than 20,000 miles on the clock for, wait for it, £18,700. Okay, so that car was a bit of a lash-up, with a Chevrolet V8 residing where its Ford should be, and the appealing unadorned 1973 bodywork 'upgraded' with later-style wide arches - but it's still a Pantera, and has just as much road presence as a P7-shod Lamborghini Countach.

More original, yet still under £30K
More original, yet still under £30K
Early ones - the cars that should be worth the most in years to come - can also be had for bargain prices. A LHD 1973 car, originally registered in Italy, looking totally original, and with around 30,000 miles on the clock was sold by Silverstone Auctions for £26,500 in 2011. That sort of money won't get you near a nice Ferrari 308 GTB these days, and might get you into a (much slower) Lamborghini Urraco... if you're lucky. Are these cars starting to make sense now?

Finally, remember that the usual rules don't apply for supercars of this age. It's unlikely you'll find one that hasn't had major work done on its body - so the old rust jibes shouldn't apply, if the car's been looked after properly. And let's be honest, after your buys one, no matter how troublesome it proves, and how often it leaves you in the lurch, or scares you silly, you can still smile, safe in the knowledge that its value's only going to go one way, and that you own a proper old-school underrated supercar. And its name is Pantera.



   

 

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burwoodman

Original Poster:

18,718 posts

275 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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When I was a teenager I went for a passenger ride in one. I thought it was the fastest thing on the planet back then. Completely bonkers. At 30mph, flooring it in a low year lit up the rears.

Dynamic Turtle

112 posts

177 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Everyone has different tastes but to me this is the best sounding car ever. RAW.

ehasler

8,579 posts

312 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Always had a soft spot for these since going to their owners club track day at Castle Combe back in the 80s when I was a kid. That blue one is cloud9

probably chalk

695 posts

221 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Pure, unadulterated filth.

So much want.

V8 FOU

3,023 posts

176 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Yes, yes, YES!

What a weapon! Best featured car on PH for years......


Now THAT would sit nicely with my Turbo R track car. But even the most bizzare man maths can't seem to do this. Damn.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Love these. Didn't realise they were available for (relatively) so little.

I might have to demote the 1969 Dodge Charger down the list of 'Cars I could feasibly - but briefly - own in years to come if start saving now.'

And just look at those rear tyres!!!

Steamer

14,175 posts

242 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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If 'Tax The Rich' is reading this I think I've got a great idea for your next youtube clip!

TWPC

904 posts

190 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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That just is so unbelievably epically wonderful.

Today hasn't been too crap so far but this is unquestionably the highlight. Thank you PH

cloud9

Liquid Tuna

1,403 posts

185 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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What a car! From every angle they look just great!

TWPC

904 posts

190 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Odd question perhaps, and unfortunately totally theoretical in my case, but if looking for a 70s style mid-engine fast/beautiful thing in this price range, do you go for a Pantera or a Lister Bell STR, or something else?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/video-can-lanci...

Slow day at work...

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

224 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Always had a soft spot for these.

Outrageously brilliant and a thumping big V8 to boot!

golfer19

1,721 posts

162 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Beautiful.
What size are those rear tyres?

MacW

1,351 posts

205 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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The Pantera has been right at the top of my lottery list for.. well, since they started the lottery.

One day...

Monkey boy 1

2,066 posts

260 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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One of my all time favourites since a teenager (and that ia a long time ago too) There is just something about early to mid 70's supercars that just hits the right buttons.

Luca Brasi

885 posts

203 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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That ass!!

BeirutTaxi

6,635 posts

243 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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I'm guessing as a rally car it sucks, but it's still desirable for every reason that can't be stated as a fact or statistic.

GhostDriver

879 posts

221 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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I'd like to bid my left testicle for this

b3robo

32 posts

191 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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I had a vivid dream a while ago where I owned a red Pantera, fully kitted out with spoiler, arches etc. and basically drove it around really aggressively, cutting people up, overtaking, basically terrorising anyone I came across. It was brilliant and wanted one ever since...

tch911

376 posts

240 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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golfer19 said:
Beautiful.
What size are those rear tyres?
Probably 325/335? 335's on mine biggrin


grale23

141 posts

201 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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tch911 said:
Probably 325/335? 335's on mine biggrin

salute you sir !! WOW