any fiesta owners here 1.0 ecoboost or tdci?
any fiesta owners here 1.0 ecoboost or tdci?
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wjwren

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4,484 posts

164 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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Buying a fiesta for my mother she has driven the 1.0 ecoboost 100bhp & the 1.5 tdci and likes them both. There is only about £250 difference in price new. Any owners of either models on here? She does about 6k miles a year so doesnt need a diesel but if the price difference is minimal then worth considering. Do the ecoboosts get close to the mpg stated by Ford?

thanks

BlueJazz

889 posts

201 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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Hi, I have the 1.0L ecoboost 125. After 1500 miles it's giving an indicated 48mpg although my average speed is around 30mph - the joy of traffic in the South-East. With such small mileage, I would stick to the petrol.

Edited by BlueJazz on Sunday 4th May 13:49

Tannedbaldhead

3,188 posts

161 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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wjwren said:
Buying a fiesta for my mother she has driven the 1.0 ecoboost 100bhp & the 1.5 tdci and likes them both. There is only about £250 difference in price new. Any owners of either models on here? She does about 6k miles a year so doesnt need a diesel but if the price difference is minimal then worth considering. Do the ecoboosts get close to the mpg stated by Ford?

thanks
I drive a company TDCI Fiesta Van 30k+ per year. MPG averages between the high forties to low fifties depending how I drive it (and mid sixties in driving miss daisy mode). The wee van handles beautifully (better than my Cooper S grumpy) has an excellent ride and as well as being great fun is light and very easy to drive.

I love it. Its only fault is the grumbly diesel (no worse than any other small oilburner mind you). No doubt about it petrols are that bit sweeter and more refined. At 6k miles per year I wouldn't worry too much about economy. I would however worry about blocked DPFs esp if most of the miles are done around town. The 1.25 normally aspirated unit is a sweet, refined and revvy engine. Have driven one as a courtesy car and liked it a lot. I'd go with one of those rather than the Ecoboost.

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

177 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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If she is just pottering about petrol every time. The diesel will soon be fked.

kevin63

4,661 posts

282 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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I have a 1.0 ecoboost and to work and back I average 40-45 mpg but I only average 17-18 miles an hour due to traffic, then I boot it on the 70mph section. I'm extremely happy with the car and when I put my foot down I just think a 1,0L surely shouldn't go this well. Motorway at around 70-75mph it averages around 50-55mpg. Ok it doesn't do what Ford say MPG wise, but do any of them.

M4cruiser

5,143 posts

179 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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Tannedbaldhead said:
The 1.25 normally aspirated unit is a sweet, refined and revvy engine. Have driven one as a courtesy car and liked it a lot. I'd go with one of those rather than the Ecoboost.
I agree with this - the 1.25 petrol 4-cyl non-turbo has a lot going for it.
On paper the 1.0 80hp is the same power with much better "figures" but in practice it won't return the really good mpg.
Difference in the road tax remains though.


wjwren

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4,484 posts

164 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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is this the same 1.25 that was around while back? I have a 1.25 fiesta for hire car about a 54 plate from memory and it was flat as a fart. Had to rev it so much I only got 30mpg.

Tannedbaldhead

3,188 posts

161 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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wjwren said:
is this the same 1.25 that was around while back? I have a 1.25 fiesta for hire car about a 54 plate from memory and it was flat as a fart. Had to rev it so much I only got 30mpg.
1.25 comes in two states of tune. 60 and 82 BHP. If you had the 60BHP version you would have to chase it on a bit to make reasonable progress.


stevemiller

583 posts

194 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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I can comment having owned a 2012 95 tdci - high forties mid fifties but could squeeze nigh on sixties on back roads. I have helped my lad cover part of 12k in the last year with the 125 Ecoboost 1.0. The mpg is around 10mpg down in all of the above figure. My pick having had access to both. 1.0 all the way and by some margin.

BlueJazz

889 posts

201 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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stevemiller said:
I can comment having owned a 2012 95 tdci - high forties mid fifties but could squeeze nigh on sixties on back roads. I have helped my lad cover part of 12k in the last year with the 125 Ecoboost 1.0. The mpg is around 10mpg down in all of the above figure. My pick having had access to both. 1.0 all the way and by some margin.
The 1.0L is the pick of the engine bunch if you believe the reviews.

MG CHRIS

9,322 posts

196 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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Oh btw the tdci engine is a French unit and a crap engine avoid like the plague if your doing short mileage.

rehab71

3,362 posts

219 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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The 1.5TDCi does more MPG but with the higher fuel cost and low mileage the 1.0 100 PS makes much more sense, not to mention it's much more powerful.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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BFG TERRANO said:
If she is just pottering about petrol every time. The diesel will soon be fked.
This old myth being recycled as if it were true! This only happens on the internet, rarely in real life

TheFinners

544 posts

156 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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I'd avoid the naturally aspirated 80bhp 1.0 'ecoboost. It is significantly slower than the almost identically powered 82bhp 1.25 presumably due it it laking in torque and probably also most likely being lumbered with longer gearing to bump up its EU mpg figure. It is also apparently not as refined as the other ecoboost models as there is not turbo to reduce the thrum of the triple.

1.25 - 0-62: 13.3sec, 104mph
1.0 - 0-62: 14.9sec, 103mph

The 1.25 is still a great little engine so I would not discount it.

rehab71

3,362 posts

219 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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TheFinners said:
I'd avoid the naturally aspirated 80bhp 1.0 'ecoboost. It is significantly slower than the almost identically powered 82bhp 1.25 presumably due it it laking in torque and probably also most likely being lumbered with longer gearing to bump up its EU mpg figure.It is also apparently not as refined as the other ecoboost models as there is not turbo to reduce the thrum of the triple.

1.25 - 0-62: 13.3sec, 104mph
1.0 - 0-62: 14.9sec, 103mph

The 1.25 is still a great little engine so I would not discount it.
The 80ps 1.0 isn't actually an Ecoboost as it's not got a turbo.

TheFinners

544 posts

156 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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rehab71 said:
The 80ps 1.0 isn't actually an Ecoboost as it's not got a turbo.
I realise this, but it is confusingly marketed under the name.

kambites

71,452 posts

250 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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I think it depends on how she does those 6000 miles. If it's 60 100 mile motorway trips, I'd get the diesel; if it's 1000 6 mile trip around town, I'd get the petrol.

Jonny_

4,704 posts

236 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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I tried a 125bhp Ecoboost a couple of weeks ago, fabulous little engine, really impressed with the refinement and the spread of torque. Made the 1.5 diesel in our Note feel rather agricultural.

Don't have any experience of the Ford 1.5 diesel engine but on paper it looks very poor: 75bhp is a pathetic output for that size turbodiesel (the 1.5 DCi that Renault and Nissan have been selling for years manages 90 or 110) and in the Fiesta it returns worse economy and co2 figures than the older, more powerful 1.6 TDCi.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

192 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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Not sure if this relevant due to mine being the old MK6.5 but my 1.25 with 65BHP,i believe,is okay.

I don't thrash it,no point,it's a small engine,if you want to go fast buy the ST.....smile

Lewtyper

211 posts

207 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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I had a Focus 1 litre ecoboost as a temporary company car a couple of months ago. I nearly cried taking it back and picking up the Insignia. Really nice car. I cant remember the exact mpg but I was very impressed by it at the time. Great engine.