Hypothetical crash option for survival
Hypothetical crash option for survival
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BE57 TOY

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2,628 posts

176 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Hypothetically what is the best option to give you greatest chance of survival -

You're doing 100mph in lane 2 on a dual carriageway and after the brow of a hill you see both lanes are gridlocked stopped with traffic (and you can't stop in time)

Do you go directly into the rear of the car in front.

Do you go down the middle of the cars in lanes 1 and 2 therefore hitting two cars.

Do you go into the side of the car in lane 2 and the central barrier.

Or something else?

Pebbles167

4,572 posts

181 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Veer off left into the grass, and take my chances with that. Would rather roll than hit a stationary car.

TimLambert7

716 posts

154 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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I'd lower the windows and start flapping my arms screaming 'FLY GODDAMIT FLY'

BE57 TOY

Original Poster:

2,628 posts

176 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Pebbles167 said:
Veer off left into the grass, and take my chances with that. Would rather roll than hit a stationary car.
What if that guaranteed going head on into a tree?

kiethton

14,635 posts

209 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Hope I wouldn't find myself in that situation but selfishly....

Straight into the one car, square on, it's where the crash structures are optimised and would disperse more energy pushing them forwards, nasty whiplash though!

SV8Predator

2,102 posts

194 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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kiethton said:
nasty whiplash though!
Yeah, but think of the compo though!

Phil117

1,538 posts

168 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Handbrake turn hard, thus rolling the car on it's side.

It would roll lots of times heading towards the cars, but will slow it down massively, and only damaged the back two cars, hopefully not hurting as many people.

Layacable

820 posts

237 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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^^^^^ The children in the back seats of the car in front would spur my decision on that one, id say bin it into the central reservation or up onto the banking and into trees and shrubs etc to disipate the energy.

TimLambert7

716 posts

154 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Phil117 said:
Handbrake turn hard, thus rolling the car on it's side.

It would roll lots of times heading towards the cars, but will slow it down massively, and only damaged the back two cars, hopefully not hurting as many people.
Would a multiple-roll-inducing handbrake turn do much more slowing down than, I don't know, the brakes?

On a serious note, I'd put it in to the Armco or if there was an upward sloped embankment I'd go up there.

McSam

6,753 posts

204 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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kiethton said:
Straight into the one car, square on, it's where the crash structures are optimised
What, as optimised for the 40%-overlap deformable barrier frontal crash test? Nope.

Let's assume our only options are into the back of one lane, or down the middle.

By far your best bet in that situation is to go straight down the middle. If you do this, the cars you hit will be to either side of you, but all of your energy is in a different direction, forwards. The force components involved in directly attacking your crash structure will be much smaller, and you will be more capable of spreading the energy punting each car you get to slightly off to the side than you would ramming one straight into another. Apart from being dramatically more likely to survive yourself, you're also making sure you shouldn't kill anyone else either.

Hell, on some roads and with drivers keeping apart to let bikers through, you might even find you fit.. hehe

Going the way of the Armco might be better if that's an option, but I don't really like the thought of hitting it at huge speed and catapulting myself onto the other carriageway. Less predictable.

Mound Dawg

1,925 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Umm, not driving like such a tt in the first place?

Phil117

1,538 posts

168 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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TimLambert7 said:
Would a multiple-roll-inducing handbrake turn do much more slowing down than, I don't know, the brakes?
I would have thought the initial impact would cut the momentum down massively.

magpie215

5,018 posts

218 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Blib

48,036 posts

226 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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BE57 TOY said:
Hypothetically what is the best option to give you greatest chance of survival -

You're doing 100mph in lane 2 on a dual carriageway and after the brow of a hill you see both lanes are gridlocked stopped with traffic (and you can't stop in time)

Do you go directly into the rear of the car in front.

Do you go down the middle of the cars in lanes 1 and 2 therefore hitting two cars.

Do you go into the side of the car in lane 2 and the central barrier.

Or something else?
Down the middle of the two lanes. yes


kiethton

14,635 posts

209 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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McSam said:
kiethton said:
Straight into the one car, square on, it's where the crash structures are optimised
What, as optimised for the 40%-overlap deformable barrier frontal crash test? Nope.

Let's assume our only options are into the back of one lane, or down the middle.

By far your best bet in that situation is to go straight down the middle. If you do this, the cars you hit will be to either side of you, but all of your energy is in a different direction, forwards. The force components involved in directly attacking your crash structure will be much smaller, and you will be more capable of spreading the energy punting each car you get to slightly off to the side than you would ramming one straight into another. Apart from being dramatically more likely to survive yourself, you're also making sure you shouldn't kill anyone else either.

Hell, on some roads and with drivers keeping apart to let bikers through, you might even find you fit.. hehe

Going the way of the Armco might be better if that's an option, but I don't really like the thought of hitting it at huge speed and catapulting myself onto the other carriageway. Less predictable.
Surely it is, get the full benefit of the safety cell with the forces being sent down both sides, no alternate direction movements for airbags etc. It will also push the car in front directly forward into whatever is in front of that with another few sets of safety cells doing their work, slowing you down further.

As has been said though, for the car you hit it isn't pleasant, especially if its a 7-seater with all seats in use!!!

pd2

301 posts

178 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Either the middle button or the far right button.........


GC8

19,910 posts

219 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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magpie215 said:
You certainly ticked all of the options! hehe

BE57 TOY

Original Poster:

2,628 posts

176 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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magpie215 said:
What's that?

Silverbullet767

11,250 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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BE57 TOY said:
magpie215 said:
What's that?
Pull it and find out, does your car have a sunroof?

chryslerben

1,265 posts

188 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Up the verge and into the tree, why would you punish the people obeying the traffic rules by slamming into the back of them.

Your the one who decide to go 100mph so you take the consequences.