RE: Jaguar to build E-Types again!
RE: Jaguar to build E-Types again!
Wednesday 14th May 2014

Jaguar to build E-Types again!

Not a special F-Type, Jaguar really is making six more E-Types. Lightweights too...



Well this is a pleasant surprise. Entirely out of the blue, Jaguar has announced that half a dozen Lightweight E-Types will be made to finally complete the original 18-car production run. Just 12 were made between 1963 and 1964 with the last six 'missing'. These new E-Types will carry the chassis numbers assigned to those cars but which have lain dormant for 50 years.

Excited? Us too
Excited? Us too
The Lightweight was 114kg lighter than a standard E-Type thanks to using aluminium for the the body and engine block, removing much of the interior trim and even going as far as removing the exterior chrome. How are new aluminium Jags so heavy? Anyway, Jaguar is to build these last cars to the exact specification of the original 12, which also included a dry-sumped version of the 3.8-litre XK straight six. Should be quite a car then.

The price? TBA at this point. What is known is that they will cost less than originals currently sell for (that's from Harry Metcalfe, who reassuringly states they are making £4-5m) and that certain prospective customers will be prioritised. They will be those classed as 'established Jaguar collectors, especially those with historic race car interests'. Form an orderly queue now...

 





 

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storminnorman

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2,357 posts

181 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Bit torn on this.
Would they be road legal?

marmite monster

143 posts

256 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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hope they get used and not stuffed away in some rich guys collection forever frown



they should give one away on ph smile

moskvich427

227 posts

204 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Do they not have to pass modern crash-tests?

Coming to a Goodwood show shortly then... hopefully!


TheDeadPrussian

879 posts

246 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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marmite monster said:
hope they get used and not stuffed away in some rich guys collection
Unlikely, as the article states priority given to 'established Jaguar collectors, especially those with historic race car interests' - so likely to be used in anger on a track one would hope...

Ian974

3,200 posts

228 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Nice! Not the biggest fan of the e-type but it's very, very cool that Jaguar will be building these.

wolfracesonic

9,192 posts

156 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Will Jaguar be actually making these or will they farm them out to one of the E Type specialists, drag the finished product back to Castle Bromwich and rivet on a Jaguar VIN plate? And probably charge a £50,000 premium for their efforts.

LotusOmega375D

9,320 posts

182 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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There's dozens of Lightweight replicas out there: one of these will presumably be as good as the best of them, but still only a fake.

They're just copying everyone else. Eg. Aston Martin DB4GT Zagato Sanction I and II (!), Lister Jaguars, etc.

What next? New C-Types and D-Types?

TA14

14,332 posts

287 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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wolfracesonic said:
Will Jaguar be actually making these or will they farm them out to one of the E Type specialists, drag the finished product back to Castle Bromwich and rivet on a Jaguar VIN plate? And probably charge a £50,000 premium for their efforts.
I think that you missed a zero there.

TA14

14,332 posts

287 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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storminnorman said:
Bit torn on this.
Would they be road legal?
Maybe. They seem to be on a similar legal basis to this: http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

matthias73

2,901 posts

179 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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LotusOmega375D said:
There's dozens of Lightweight replicas out there: one of these will presumably be as good as the best of them, but still only a fake.

They're just copying everyone else. Eg. Aston Martin DB4GT Zagato Sanction I and II (!), Lister Jaguars, etc.

What next? New C-Types and D-Types?
Except it's not a fake, is it?
It's a real jaguar. Built and endorsed by Jag. That makes it genuine.

Numeric

1,499 posts

180 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Genuine? Fake? Don't care - cheerfully sell a body part!!

MogulBoy

3,066 posts

252 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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It's a lovely idea and kudos to everyone involved. smile

The obvious precedent is the 1988 Sanction II Aston Martin Db4 Zagatos - what do these examples change hands for these days?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aston_Martin_DB4_GT_Z...

It does rather bring a few aspects of today's classic car market into sharp focus though. e.g. Why pay 4-5m for an original (probably comprehensively restored) lightweight when you can have an 'exact' replica made for less than 10%? (I might assume Jaguar will be able to command somewhere north of 10% of the original price though.)

Of course, the provenance of the original will always be worth something but Jaguar is effectively entering the replica market here as the the addtional 'provenance' imbued with a previously reserved(!) chassis number is pushing it a bit!

P.S. A year or more ago, there was an incredible restoration of an old E-Type on Pistonheads (can't find the link now) that was something truly special as they appeared to had gone to incredible lengths to preserve as much of the original metalwork as possible..

LotusOmega375D

9,320 posts

182 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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matthias73 said:
Except it's not a fake, is it?
It's a real jaguar. Built and endorsed by Jag. That makes it genuine.
Show me a photo of it competing in period then? I'd love to read about its race history and who drove it back then.

If I was the fortunate owner of an original, I would certainly consider these to be fakes.

Triumph Man

9,576 posts

197 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Will they take the opportunity to do "upgrades" I.e. better cooling systems, better brakes etc. Would they (for argument's sake) be on 14 plates, or "period" plates?

Gary C

15,229 posts

208 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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LotusOmega375D said:
matthias73 said:
Except it's not a fake, is it?
It's a real jaguar. Built and endorsed by Jag. That makes it genuine.
Show me a photo of it competing in period then? I'd love to read about its race history and who drove it back then.

If I was the fortunate owner of an original, I would certainly consider these to be fakes.
Actually, if I had an original one, I might quite like one of these to use more regularly.

JDMDrifter

4,063 posts

194 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Fantastic! I think more Manufacturers should do this.

CBR JGWRR

6,583 posts

178 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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LotusOmega375D said:
Show me a photo of it competing in period then? I'd love to read about its race history and who drove it back then.

If I was the fortunate owner of an original, I would certainly consider these to be fakes.
Lack of racing provenance doesn't make these into fakes, just worthless by comparison. Your missing the fact that these six were meant to have been made with the twelve others.


scottos

1,337 posts

153 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Awesome, love e-types. We built and look after one that competes in the HSCC and i can quite easily loose half the morning just stood there staring at it. We got ours weighing in just over a ton and thats with steel main body and steel block, the rest aluminium. Having had to lift the block in and out of a hot wash there's certainly lots of weight to be lost from that!

J4CKO

46,820 posts

229 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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JDMDrifter said:
Fantastic! I think more Manufacturers should do this.
Yeah, i agree, legislation aside, I wonder if Porsche could make any more air cooled models, do they still have the tooling, after all I have a remade Big Trak electonic tank type thing like I had as a kid and two pairs of Adidas LA Trainers like I could never afford back then appreciate a car is much more complicated though !

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

214 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Wow - see this is the sort of thing you only dream about large car companies ever doing. Something for the enthusiasts, and something that properly harks back to their heritage - not some crap 'paint job and a badge' deal. I can't wait to read more about these as and when they're built!