RE: Maserati Gransport: Spotted
RE: Maserati Gransport: Spotted
Tuesday 27th May 2014

Maserati Gransport: Spotted

Because the world would be dull if everyone bought 997s



It reflects Maserati's progress in the last 10 years that we all expected the new Ghibli to be fairly exceptional. Following the evolution of the Quattroporte and the marvellous GranTurismo, its excellence appeared guaranteed.

Can the boomerangs be retrofitted?
Can the boomerangs be retrofitted?
However, things haven't quite worked out like that. Our review of the Ghibli S reported flawed damping and lifeless steering, the car feeling a little underdeveloped. That sense was evident again at SMMT last week.

And what does the underwhelming Ghibli have to do with the Gransport? Well the 4200GT-based coupe was the exact opposite of the new saloon; based on an old platform with minimal tweaks, very little was expected of it. Bring on the GranTurismo thought quite a few, we preferred the 3200GT anyway.

As it transpired the Gransport was a belter. Tweaks to the Skyhook suspension, revised Cambiocorsa software and another 10hp produced the coupe the world had always wanted from Maserati. It wasn't perfect but it was hugely talented, just a shame it took Maserati that long to hone the 3200/4200 to what it should have been.

Interiors have come a fair way
Interiors have come a fair way
It's interesting to note that the c.8K price difference between a Cambiocorsa 4200GT and Gransport in 2005 has remained fairly consistent secondhand. This 2006 4200GT is 26K and has covered 25,000 miles and this Gransport from the same year with 1,000 fewer recorded miles is 32K.

This silver car is a little less showy than the blues and reds so commonly seen and looks to be immaculate which you could reasonably expect given its low mileage and full Maser service history. As a sports car/GT for every occasion, from the commute to the continental cruise, it would surely be superb. Reading through a few reader reviews of 3200/4200s shows wildly differing experiences; some experience blissful, others horrendous. The Cambiocorsa 'box seems to go through its clutch quite quickly.

The alternatives to the Gransport are all special cars in their own right. It says something about the Maserati's value that a 30K Aston V8 Vantage is older and has more than twice the mileage. Furthermore, for proof of how savagely the V10 BMW M6 depreciated, see this 2008 car is less than either. Facelifted 510hp XKRs are also within budget.

And the 911 question? This 997 C2S manual is another fine way to spend 30K but seems a tad predictable after the Maserati. And where would be the fun in that? Be bold and get the Gransport.


MASERATI GRANSPORT
Engine:
4,244cc V8
Transmission: Six-speed Cambiocorsa automated manual
Power (hp): 400@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 334@4,500rpm
MPG: 16.1
CO2: 430g/km
First registered: 2007
Recorded mileage: 32,000
Price new: 66,900
Yours for: 30,990

See the original advert here.



 

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Richair

Original Poster:

1,021 posts

226 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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I do like these and there a few around my way, including one rather fruity Larni (or similar) exhaust'd example... But, is it just me or are they starting to look a bit dated and no in a good way?

I'm 99% sure I'd still take the 997 I'm afraid.

melvster

6,841 posts

214 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Great looking car and they have aged very well.

LuS1fer

43,494 posts

274 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Apart from the boomerang lights on the earlier 3200GT, I do find this design somewhat over-rated.

Every time I see one, I just think it looks like an old Jaguar XK and there is precious little about the design that screams anything other than a generic retro-Italian coupe.

I would rather have a Jag XKR which, to me eyes looks better resolved.

Gransport

30 posts

151 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Its a superb car and all the better for being somewhat unknown. Although described as a 'GT' it really feels like a compact two seaterjust with two (proper) chairs behind. May not be as hard as a 911 or Ferrari but still very firm and direct. Not cosseting like an XK8. A genuine event to drive - fast, great noise, brilliant turn-in and traction. The Ferrari designed V8 is a gem - utterly addictive as it hows round to 7k and max power. Mine was recently thrapped by a race driver down a tortuous river valley road and he got out beaming, summing up the GS as 'Proper'.

soad

34,644 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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melvster said:
Great looking car and they have aged very well.
I like these too. smile

matteblack1

9 posts

148 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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The skirts are nice too!

tosh.brice

204 posts

240 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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I hesitate to say this but to me the back end looks rather like an Octavia taxi!

LayZ

1,828 posts

271 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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In the market for a 4200 at the moment, would like a GS but the prices are much stronger. You can get a 2004 4200 for 15k, 2005 GS start about 25k. Are they really that much better?

Pork

9,455 posts

263 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Incredibly biased but for me, this is the car Maserati got right. Its not as slick as many newer paddle shift cars, arguably not as good some of the same age, but its part of the appeal. The inside is a lovely place to be, the sound is intoxicating and its as quick as I would ever need a car to be. Its a better can than I am driver and it always will be.

I love the fact that you just don't see them around. In 3 years, I've never seen another 'in the wild' when I've been in mine. General responses to it are also very favourable, having coaxed a "ooh, doesnt it sound lovely" from my mother in law, who previously hasn't so much as commented on the colour of any previous cars.

They're not for running on a shoe string, but look after them and they'll serve you well. I love mine dearly and don't know what I would replace it with short of a 612 or an FF and each of those are considerably more expensive. I'm pleased I bought one and would recommend one to anyone, so long as you do your research.

You could do worse than reading up on them on sportsmaserati.com

Article said:
The Cambiocorsa 'box seems to go through its clutch quite quickly.
Mine is on 54k and still going strong. I cant find any evidence of a clutch and it certainly hasn't had one in the near 30k I've done in the car - set up correctly, they're not as bad as people make out. They're not made for stop/start traffic or reversing up hill, both of which will age the clutch prematurely.

myhandle

1,297 posts

203 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Can the boomerangs be retrofitted? Yes they can:


Pork

9,455 posts

263 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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tosh.brice said:
I hesitate to say this but to me the back end looks rather like an Octavia taxi!
hehe

Aye, the lights aren't everyone cup of. I think they're a bit Prelude-esque. My niece, bless her, said "It looks like a Rover from the back".

Pork

9,455 posts

263 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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myhandle said:
Can the boomerangs be retrofitted? Yes they can:

Not cheap though!

The parts along will be a couple of k, then getting someone to do it all. IIRC, estimates were around 6k. Personally, I like 'em but not 6k like 'em!

Baryonyx

18,280 posts

188 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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LuS1fer said:
Apart from the boomerang lights on the earlier 3200GT, I do find this design somewhat over-rated.

Every time I see one, I just think it looks like an old Jaguar XK and there is precious little about the design that screams anything other than a generic retro-Italian coupe.

I would rather have a Jag XKR which, to me eyes looks better resolved.
The boomerangs are the best styling detail Maserati have come up with in a long while. Other than that, the contemporary XK was a better looking car in every respect.

Alfa159Ti

856 posts

186 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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I drove a 4200 a few years back and it was fast and exciting.

Some performance cars feel like they are on your side and want to work with you when you are pressing on.

The 4200 didn't feel like that.

The car felt raw and wild, which is by no means a bad thing in the right circumstances. I still remember opening the taps in a straight line in second and the back end stepping out suddenly. In the dry. I've owned a car like that before and whilst it was fun learning to drive it fast, it made it a bit waring sometimes day to day, particularly in poor conditions where the car doesn't tolerate a lapse of concentration.


Gransport

30 posts

151 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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I do think the GS is very colour sensitive. In lighter shades it doesn't look so good (my opinion only!) so I looked for nearly a year to get a darker colour combo (dark metallic blue). I've spent lots of time looking at it since and think it hangs together really nicely and will age well. The front arches have more flare and the curve over the rear wheels is much more interesting / muscular than you can see in photos. A bit DB6 from the back, with a suggestion of Kamm tail (one for the old buggers). Its not a pretty as a 355, 458 or Aston but its attractive, intriguing and always gets a positive reaction.

It is above all a clever bit of packaging. It feels - and looks - pretty small but has way more room inside than a 911, Jag or DB9. Its easy to place on the road and punt down lanes.

As for "being surprised if it could keep up with a 997", that's part of the fun. People who have owned both reckon the 911 has the ultimate edge but would have to be very well driven to get away from one. One of the real pleasures of owning it has been discovering that its way better than expected. Only EVO reviewed it in this country at the time and they thought it a worthy alternative.

Gransport

30 posts

151 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Gransport said:
As for "being surprised if it could keep up with a 997", that's part of the fun. People who have owned both reckon the 911 has the ultimate edge but would have to be very well driven to get away from one. One of the real pleasures of owning it has been discovering that its way better than expected. Only EVO reviewed it in this country at the time and they thought it a worthy alternative.

Don't think anyone mentioned 'keeping up' with a 997. Wouldn't bother me which was faster, personally. That's a different question from what makes for the better drive.

You're quite right - good correction.

ukmike2000

476 posts

197 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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I almost bought a silver one but an hour of slapping myself about the face with wet fivers persuaded me there were better ways to spend money than to squander it on an old Maser.
Not really the most stylish of cars, but still a headturner, with a rich looking interior. I preferred the original boomerang rear lights though.
A decent car if you use it for Grand Touring - but the bills are not for the weak-hearted.

chelme

1,353 posts

199 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Seriously considered buying one of these and took a red one out for a drive (thanks to Dugal at Autoffccina). The highlights of this car can be summarized as follows:

It looks very handsome in the flesh -the photographs simply do not do justice to it.

The interior can be so luxurious (the red one had a high tech fabric the colour of which was not to my taste). Then you start the engine and I wager no other manufacturer makes a cross-plane V8 engine as charismatic as the ones in these Maseratis. 4.2 with 390-95 BHP not to be sniffed at.

For obvious reasons, I did not cane the car, nor was I allowed to drift it around roundabouts, but I did get to extend it within the legal limits of course! Seriously, you not only hear the engine, but passengers at the back can 'feel' it through the structure of the vehicle as it revs to a sonorous crescendo. I do not wish to give the wrong impression, but you really feel this car in a very special way.

The steering wheel was also surprisingly communicative and the chassis felt really planted, yet communicated what was going on through the seat. It was a fantastic car to drive, despite not liking the F1 transmission but this was only because I was not familiar with it...

Alas, I have since put a deposit down on a Spyder version (with a Six Speed Manual) because you still get a very capable car and have the advantage of hearing the sound of this wonderful engine even more.

mrclav

1,645 posts

252 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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myhandle said:
Can the boomerangs be retrofitted? Yes they can:

A quick bit of digging found this... No price though.

Contigo

3,130 posts

238 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Maserati imo have something so much more special than Porsche. Drive a 997 then jump into any Maserati from the 3200 onwards and tell me how much more soulful the car is. 997 goes well but dull as fk!