Unbelievable Insurance Situation
Unbelievable Insurance Situation
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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My wife arranged insurance a few weeks back with a company whose name is closely related to that of an antiperspirant brand with which you can 'do more'. She was requested to send her proof of no claims which she duly did in the blue envelope provided.

Today, she received an e-mail saying they had cancelled her insurance as they had not received the proof of no claims. They didn't warn her, they didn't ask for another copy, they just cancelled. And worst of all, they apparently cancelled last Friday, but only e-mailed today. And they refunded the policy premium, which was paid fully up front, less £50.

Called up their call centre, to be faced with a rather feckless Scotsman who tried pathetically to justify their actions. He said it was standard practice for insurance companies to rely on customers calling to confirm receipt of proof of no claims. He also said he was the most senior person there, refused to provide his second name, and said it was 'our problem' this had happened. He finally agreed to have someone call us back 'within 24hrs'.

As you might imagine, I'm a little miffed, as she had been driving around all weekend with kids in the car.

We will of course be taking this further with the company, and I'd also like to take it up with an ombudsman in an attempt to recover the £50 (a point of principle) - can anyone point me in the right direction please?.

73mark

774 posts

156 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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I think they will be covered in the small print,just move on with you're life and never use less than again.

Debaser

8,414 posts

290 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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I once had a situation where a new insurance company wanted several documents from me including proof of no claims. I posted everything off only to receive a letter saying they hadn't received anything. I posted everything again, same result. I tried a third time and sent it special (signed for) delivery. I called them a few days later for them to say they'd received a couple of the documents, but were still missing two (they were all in the same envelope!).

I decided to use some more modern technology and asked for their fax number, and faxed the 'missing' documents to them. Next day I called to check all was ok but they were still missing these two documents. I asked the lady on the phone if I could fax them to her right away, and could she confirm she had them while I was on the phone. She agreed and I faxed them to her - all was fine, she had them in her hand.

About two weeks later I received a letter informing me that if I didn't send them my documents within seven days they'd cancel my insurance...

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

214 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Does seem like bks. My current insurer, HIC, told me quite clearly several times when I took out my policy (everything was done over email) about the need to supply certain documents. I did them just in time (as I do tend to leave things till the last minute!) but clearly in that time it'd triggered something in their system as I received a reminder in the post, along with a postage paid return envelope and an extended deadline date, politely reminding me I needed to supply these documents.

Thought that seemed very fair and seems to be a decent company to deal with.

Jim AK

4,029 posts

153 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Nice. On a Bank Holiday weekend. Thank goodness nothing untoward occurred.

Can't help with how to complain but had similar situation with proof going astray 4 or 5 years ago. My then insurers (They have a dog) contacted me about it & I faxed or emailed the proof immediately.

Can't believe the call centre person didn't tell you to do this or that they left the call until today. If I were you I would call back now & hope he is off shift & the current shift manager, if that is what this mornings caller really was, is more helpful.

I also think you will now have to inform any future provider you have had a policy cancelled.

Good luck with this.

parabolica

7,009 posts

213 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Spooky. I just bought a policy with the same company, sent in my NCD proof at the start of this month but heard nothing since, so called them yesterday to make sure. I did this because the small print says they will cancel and charge £50 if not received and I've heard enough stories of this happening to others on here so reckoned it was worth following up. Person on the phone confirmed receipt of the NCD; and oddly I got a follow up call today (not sure if it had been scheduled all along) to talk over the policy.

In short, I'm afraid it's not unbelievable; happened to many people. ALWAYS follow up with insurers when you send away proof of NCD, especially if you haven't received confirmation of receipt within one week of sending.

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

211 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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I'm often a bit tardy at getting the NCD proof over and have had several reminders over the years, together with a few of my posted docs going missing, but I've always had fair warning from the ins co.s. This one has been a little bit naughty IMO.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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So a quick post on their Facebook page and mysteriously we received a call from a supervisor within 20 mins.

They have refunded the £50, agreed what we had been told was not true, told us their process had broken down, and apologised.

We now have cover in place for the same amount elsewhere.

NH1

1,333 posts

158 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Happend to me as well with some two bit company I cant remember the name of. Obviously more profitable to take £50 or so and never deal with people again than it is to insure them for a year. I had to threaten legal action in the end to get any of my money back.

steveo3002

11,201 posts

203 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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had the same a couple of times , very angry threatening letters when ive sent the papaers away same day

Rick101

7,188 posts

179 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Shoddy behaviour and sadly far too common.

t400ble

1,804 posts

150 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Social media really appears to be the best way of making companies listen

Sad really

TangerinePool

1,393 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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had ham said:
So a quick post on their Facebook page and mysteriously we received a call from a supervisor within 20 mins.

They have refunded the £50, agreed what we had been told was not true, told us their process had broken down, and apologised.

We now have cover in place for the same amount elsewhere.
Good result! I was expecting pages of infighting based on different experiences and Breadvan attempting to tell us how it is (in vain) but zero update from the OP.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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TangerinePool said:
Good result! I was expecting pages of infighting based on different experiences and Breadvan attempting to tell us how it is (in vain) but zero update from the OP.
Me too, I really did think hard about posting.

So Facebook appears to be useful for something!

passtheword

2,143 posts

166 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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When taking out a new policy, i check askmid nearly every day for about 2 weeks afterwards in case something happens biggrin

corozin

2,680 posts

300 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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So we've all learned a lesson today then. Another insurance company I won't bother looking at.
In my case it didn't even matter as they were massively uncompetitive anyway but have noted for the future.

Muffsy

141 posts

149 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Debaser said:
I once had a situation where a new insurance company wanted several documents from me including proof of no claims. I posted everything off only to receive a letter saying they hadn't received anything. I posted everything again, same result. I tried a third time and sent it special (signed for) delivery. I called them a few days later for them to say they'd received a couple of the documents, but were still missing two (they were all in the same envelope!).

I decided to use some more modern technology and asked for their fax number, and faxed the 'missing' documents to them. Next day I called to check all was ok but they were still missing these two documents. I asked the lady on the phone if I could fax them to her right away, and could she confirm she had them while I was on the phone. She agreed and I faxed them to her - all was fine, she had them in her hand.

About two weeks later I received a letter informing me that if I didn't send them my documents within seven days they'd cancel my insurance...
Haha, fk Sake, have you any hair left...

Chucklehead

2,853 posts

237 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Used to work for these guys part time in my uni days.

If nothing was received after multiple requests it was standard practise to send a "7 day cancellation" letter, dated seven days from date of posting. A straight up cancellation could only be done for fraudulent transactions.

If people kept sending in the wrong docs I'd tend to call the other insurance co, confirm it hadn't been renewed and what the correct NCD was.

worsy

6,597 posts

204 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Muffsy said:
Debaser said:
I once had a situation where a new insurance company wanted several documents from me including proof of no claims. I posted everything off only to receive a letter saying they hadn't received anything. I posted everything again, same result. I tried a third time and sent it special (signed for) delivery. I called them a few days later for them to say they'd received a couple of the documents, but were still missing two (they were all in the same envelope!).

I decided to use some more modern technology and asked for their fax number, and faxed the 'missing' documents to them. Next day I called to check all was ok but they were still missing these two documents. I asked the lady on the phone if I could fax them to her right away, and could she confirm she had them while I was on the phone. She agreed and I faxed them to her - all was fine, she had them in her hand.

About two weeks later I received a letter informing me that if I didn't send them my documents within seven days they'd cancel my insurance...
Haha, fk Sake, have you any hair left...
Had the same problem with a non motoring insurance. Turned out the forms were scanned and attached to the policy under the wrong item. It was their automated system firing off a letter. I managed 3 lots before we (myself and the poor sap who took my last call) sorted it.


Edited by worsy on Tuesday 27th May 21:02

007 VXR

64,187 posts

216 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Had the same thing happen to me 6 years ago, but i was out of the counrty, so did not know they had lost my NCB letter and been tring to call me, got back drove got nicked 6 points and £300 fine for no insurace rage
That waqs with **66 smash