Which 90s Jap turbo coupe?
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My wife has recently got a new Toyota Corolla and I was thinking of chopping my 10 year old car for something of similar age and value (Civic/Golf/Focus or whatever) but then I thought that I can't really think of one car that excites me that could be everything I want it to be, which got me thinking, how about two older cars for the same price as one newish one?
I quite fancy an older Mercedes as a comfortable, practical, all-season daily (ML or W203 C-Class or W211 E-Class) but now summer has finally kind of arrived and I see people driving around in sportscars, I fancy something like that for fun to drive in the summer.
I've always liked the 350Z and thought that if I were ever in the market for a sportscar I would get one of those. However, I quite fancy something turbocharged, as I miss the explosive power delivery of my old WRX and I've read that the engine on the 350Z is quite coarse and the handling not as agile as you would expect it to be. Watching "Fast and Furious" the other night I was reminded of these:
I remember when these came out, I was 12 and it was briefly my favourite car in the whole world! A quick browse on Autotrader shows that there are a surprising number still around, which appear to be in good condition and actually cheaper than I expected too. However, I know that the engine is it's defining feature but also it's biggest weakness. Not bothered about the fuel economy but engine failure scares me a bit, as I have no specialist backup in my area (I live in Canada and the nearest specialist is probably 12 hours drive away)! However, if you check the oil regularly and run the engine to operating temperature before shutting off, what can go wrong? If I'm correct in thinking the rotary engine doesn't have many moving parts and rotor wear is only major problem? How often do these engines need rebuilding?
I also considered some other options. Quite a few mk2 MR2 Turbos around for not too much money and I think they were officially imported here too. Doing some research, not much power stock but I expect most have been tuned and seem popular on this forum. Are these a safer bet?
I've also considered one of these but a bit less exotic than the others.
And although a bit more expensive, when you consider the others, you have to throw these two into the mix as well.
The R32 is my favourite bodystyle Skyline. GTRs are surprisingly cheap but GTS Turbos are really cheap and I think I would prefer RWD for more fun at non-licence -losing speeds! Are they quite a lot slower in this guise though?
Any advice/first-hand experience on any of these cars would be welcome, as they're not something I know much about.
I quite fancy an older Mercedes as a comfortable, practical, all-season daily (ML or W203 C-Class or W211 E-Class) but now summer has finally kind of arrived and I see people driving around in sportscars, I fancy something like that for fun to drive in the summer.
I've always liked the 350Z and thought that if I were ever in the market for a sportscar I would get one of those. However, I quite fancy something turbocharged, as I miss the explosive power delivery of my old WRX and I've read that the engine on the 350Z is quite coarse and the handling not as agile as you would expect it to be. Watching "Fast and Furious" the other night I was reminded of these:
I remember when these came out, I was 12 and it was briefly my favourite car in the whole world! A quick browse on Autotrader shows that there are a surprising number still around, which appear to be in good condition and actually cheaper than I expected too. However, I know that the engine is it's defining feature but also it's biggest weakness. Not bothered about the fuel economy but engine failure scares me a bit, as I have no specialist backup in my area (I live in Canada and the nearest specialist is probably 12 hours drive away)! However, if you check the oil regularly and run the engine to operating temperature before shutting off, what can go wrong? If I'm correct in thinking the rotary engine doesn't have many moving parts and rotor wear is only major problem? How often do these engines need rebuilding?
I also considered some other options. Quite a few mk2 MR2 Turbos around for not too much money and I think they were officially imported here too. Doing some research, not much power stock but I expect most have been tuned and seem popular on this forum. Are these a safer bet?
I've also considered one of these but a bit less exotic than the others.
And although a bit more expensive, when you consider the others, you have to throw these two into the mix as well.
The R32 is my favourite bodystyle Skyline. GTRs are surprisingly cheap but GTS Turbos are really cheap and I think I would prefer RWD for more fun at non-licence -losing speeds! Are they quite a lot slower in this guise though?
Any advice/first-hand experience on any of these cars would be welcome, as they're not something I know much about.
MR-2 will be a safer bet than the RX7 in terms of reliability.
But for me, there's no discussion on this. Two Turbos. Rotary Power. Wonderfully small car = more room to chuck around on the road. Make no mistake; I'd love one, but I'm too much of a wimp to replace my daily driver with one. There are economic ways of keeping them running however - engine rebuild services with 2-3 year warranties are possible with a rebuild costing ~£1500. The ball park figure is that an engine is good for up to 60k. You will want a compression test to prove the state the engine is in though. Budget for 12-15mpg and if you get more either smile at the pennies you've saved, or chastise yourself for not trying harder.
They're all gonna be s
t on fuel, they're all gonna break, even the fabled R-32 is a full time job to keep running these days, so buy the one which you want the most.
But for me, there's no discussion on this. Two Turbos. Rotary Power. Wonderfully small car = more room to chuck around on the road. Make no mistake; I'd love one, but I'm too much of a wimp to replace my daily driver with one. There are economic ways of keeping them running however - engine rebuild services with 2-3 year warranties are possible with a rebuild costing ~£1500. The ball park figure is that an engine is good for up to 60k. You will want a compression test to prove the state the engine is in though. Budget for 12-15mpg and if you get more either smile at the pennies you've saved, or chastise yourself for not trying harder.
They're all gonna be s
t on fuel, they're all gonna break, even the fabled R-32 is a full time job to keep running these days, so buy the one which you want the most. Edited by Tib on Tuesday 27th May 23:10
Some good choices and good questions also.
I have owned Supras and Skylines.
The Supra is a very capable and quick Dual carriageway cruiser and also fast (in twin turbo or single turbo upgrade)on the 1/4 mile.
An R32 gtr is much the same BUT much more capable around the twisties. It will also, with comparable upgrades to the Supra, beat it over the 1/4 mile ( in my experience).
If you really want to have some fun though, go for an R32 gtst or the lesser known gts4 ( switchable 4/2 wd)
Much more fun and tuneable to 400bhp on original internals.
I also had a Carlos Sainz GT4... Still prefer the R32
I have owned Supras and Skylines.
The Supra is a very capable and quick Dual carriageway cruiser and also fast (in twin turbo or single turbo upgrade)on the 1/4 mile.
An R32 gtr is much the same BUT much more capable around the twisties. It will also, with comparable upgrades to the Supra, beat it over the 1/4 mile ( in my experience).
If you really want to have some fun though, go for an R32 gtst or the lesser known gts4 ( switchable 4/2 wd)
Much more fun and tuneable to 400bhp on original internals.
I also had a Carlos Sainz GT4... Still prefer the R32
Edited by digger the goat on Tuesday 27th May 23:10
I had an RX7 for a few years. It had had an engine rebuilt before I got it, and made decent compression all the time I owned it - I never worried about rotor tip wear. I was much more concerned about the cooling system (its marginal, and there's a lot of hot stuff in a little engine bay. It gets hot enough that the bonnet is too hot to comfortably lift) and the sequential turbo set up. There's a lot of pipework to control the boost abd pre-spool set up, it gets brittle, cracked, and blocked with oil deposits, and fault finding it to get a decent smooth transition is complex ad frustrating. If you don't get it sorted it makes for 80s handling when you suddenly get a cough of power at 3500rpm. If I was doing it again, I'd go for a recent rebuild, FMIC, and medium single turbo aiming at 300-350BHP ish
S14- would probably be the most reliable, easily tuned/plenty available,, was never really fond of the sr20 sound.
MR2- isn't very practical, 2seats and not a lot of actual storage space, Rev3 are the good one's though an they do go well.
RX7- Get a good one! find someone who knows Rotory's to work on it, they have a bad name but don't deserve it, can be epic cars and that sound!.
Surpa- The Daddy simple as, big an can be thirsty but fairly bulletproof and awesome, If you can afford it its worth it.
GTR- same as supra abit more complicated but still just as good, if you like sideways fun kicking them out on the roads can be a handful- they Grip and GOOO!
st205 GT4- Never liked them Ford's competition in WRC in the 90's, Until a close friend got one, I was wrong, as close to a road going rally car as it gets, there abit heavy but feel extremely planted 'Hold the road better then the white lines'
Impreza- the STI's and RA's are nice, quick and feel light/chuckable some up on 300bhp standard, can suffer from tin worm and tend to have been abused but a good one is a gem,
EVO's - same as Impreza not as quirky but just as capable some more so
R32,R33 GTS-t,GTS25T - A hooligan of a car, easily tuned, simple enough and cheep and chuckable with a lovely sound, R32 feels kind of lightish, R33 can be abit piggish P.H. seems to dismiss a skyline if its not a GTR, Standard there ok, but with abit more boost and afew bits and bobs there brilliant machines, almost supra like
and can be picked up in japland for small money,
Value for money RB20 is fairly robust and is more fun, extra money can be spent repairing the rear 1/4's at some point
A list like that has to include the NSX but no turbo and I know nothing about them
If you wanted more-door fun can't ignore JDM Lurels, Cefiro's or even JZX90-100 Chasers like a big Jap Merc's but better(unless your talking AMG)
This is my opinion from friends and customer cars, But with 4wd all that can be done is grip and go, so you tend be traveling stupid mph more often, RWD you can teach the rears who's boss, and step it out a little so you tend get your kicks at lower speeds, I always ask EVO/ any 4WD owner if they miss the smell of burnt rubber/when was the last time they smelt it, a lot never notice.
Again my 2cents and of coarse I don't condone misbehaving on the roads,
MR2- isn't very practical, 2seats and not a lot of actual storage space, Rev3 are the good one's though an they do go well.
RX7- Get a good one! find someone who knows Rotory's to work on it, they have a bad name but don't deserve it, can be epic cars and that sound!.
Surpa- The Daddy simple as, big an can be thirsty but fairly bulletproof and awesome, If you can afford it its worth it.
GTR- same as supra abit more complicated but still just as good, if you like sideways fun kicking them out on the roads can be a handful- they Grip and GOOO!
st205 GT4- Never liked them Ford's competition in WRC in the 90's, Until a close friend got one, I was wrong, as close to a road going rally car as it gets, there abit heavy but feel extremely planted 'Hold the road better then the white lines'
Impreza- the STI's and RA's are nice, quick and feel light/chuckable some up on 300bhp standard, can suffer from tin worm and tend to have been abused but a good one is a gem,
EVO's - same as Impreza not as quirky but just as capable some more so
R32,R33 GTS-t,GTS25T - A hooligan of a car, easily tuned, simple enough and cheep and chuckable with a lovely sound, R32 feels kind of lightish, R33 can be abit piggish P.H. seems to dismiss a skyline if its not a GTR, Standard there ok, but with abit more boost and afew bits and bobs there brilliant machines, almost supra like
and can be picked up in japland for small money,
Value for money RB20 is fairly robust and is more fun, extra money can be spent repairing the rear 1/4's at some point
A list like that has to include the NSX but no turbo and I know nothing about them
If you wanted more-door fun can't ignore JDM Lurels, Cefiro's or even JZX90-100 Chasers like a big Jap Merc's but better(unless your talking AMG)
This is my opinion from friends and customer cars, But with 4wd all that can be done is grip and go, so you tend be traveling stupid mph more often, RWD you can teach the rears who's boss, and step it out a little so you tend get your kicks at lower speeds, I always ask EVO/ any 4WD owner if they miss the smell of burnt rubber/when was the last time they smelt it, a lot never notice.
Again my 2cents and of coarse I don't condone misbehaving on the roads,
Edited by BigBo on Wednesday 28th May 01:06
Why not get an S15 Silvia instead of an S14 Silvia?
I've owned both (currently own an S15 now), and the S15 is better in every way.
Since you said you live in Canada, the 1999 model year S15s are legal now in Canada. Just make sure you get a Spec R (turbo) instead of a Spec S (non-turbo). You can probably get a good Spec R with ~100000kms for ~$10000 CAD.
Here's an S15 Spec R Aero with the stock body and wheels:
My S15:
An example of a "highly modified" S15:
The SR20 engine is very reliable, and should be fine as long as you don't crank the boost way up without having any sort of fuel management to add fuel, which causes detonation. Many people that break their SR20s do it that way. I haven't had any problems with mine in 2 years of ownership.
I've owned both (currently own an S15 now), and the S15 is better in every way.
Since you said you live in Canada, the 1999 model year S15s are legal now in Canada. Just make sure you get a Spec R (turbo) instead of a Spec S (non-turbo). You can probably get a good Spec R with ~100000kms for ~$10000 CAD.
Here's an S15 Spec R Aero with the stock body and wheels:
My S15:
An example of a "highly modified" S15:
The SR20 engine is very reliable, and should be fine as long as you don't crank the boost way up without having any sort of fuel management to add fuel, which causes detonation. Many people that break their SR20s do it that way. I haven't had any problems with mine in 2 years of ownership.
Edited by stk910 on Wednesday 28th May 03:59
stk910 said:
Why not get an S15 Silvia instead of an S14 Silvia?
I've owned both (currently own an S15 now), and the S15 is better in every way.
Since you said you live in Canada, the 1999 model year S15s are legal now in Canada. Just make sure you get a Spec R (turbo) instead of a Spec S (non-turbo). You can probably get a good Spec R with ~100000kms for ~$10000 CAD.
Here's an S15 Spec R Aero with the stock body and wheels:
My S15:
An example of a "highly modified" S15:
The SR20 engine is very reliable, and should be fine as long as you don't crank the boost way up without having any sort of fuel management to add fuel, which causes detonation. Many people that break their SR20s do it that way. I haven't had any problems with mine in 2 years of ownership.
Thanks for that. I prefer the look of that to the S14 200SX. Was this the blue and orange car that got smashed up in F&F Tokyo Drift? How much power does the turbo have stock? Possibly new enough to use as a DD too? How rust resistant are they?I've owned both (currently own an S15 now), and the S15 is better in every way.
Since you said you live in Canada, the 1999 model year S15s are legal now in Canada. Just make sure you get a Spec R (turbo) instead of a Spec S (non-turbo). You can probably get a good Spec R with ~100000kms for ~$10000 CAD.
Here's an S15 Spec R Aero with the stock body and wheels:
My S15:
An example of a "highly modified" S15:
The SR20 engine is very reliable, and should be fine as long as you don't crank the boost way up without having any sort of fuel management to add fuel, which causes detonation. Many people that break their SR20s do it that way. I haven't had any problems with mine in 2 years of ownership.
Edited by stk910 on Wednesday 28th May 03:59
I think I've ruled out an S14 200SX anyway. I was never that keen on the styling, particularly after the facelift but did find the mechanical package very appealing. On further research, it's called the 240SX here and has a 2.4 NA engine with about 165bhp, which doesn't appeal much at all! There seem to be a few cars advertised with the SR20 turbo conversion but at a massive premium.
The only problem that I have with the S15 Silvia is that the only two turbos I found for sale are both quite expensive. $16000 Canadian dollars for a 1999 model, whereas you can get a 1998 RWD R34 Skyline Turbo or even a R32 GTR for about $12000!
Tib said:
MR-2 will be a safer bet than the RX7 in terms of reliability.
But for me, there's no discussion on this. Two Turbos. Rotary Power. Wonderfully small car = more room to chuck around on the road. Make no mistake; I'd love one, but I'm too much of a wimp to replace my daily driver with one. There are economic ways of keeping them running however - engine rebuild services with 2-3 year warranties are possible with a rebuild costing ~£1500. The ball park figure is that an engine is good for up to 60k. You will want a compression test to prove the state the engine is in though. Budget for 12-15mpg and if you get more either smile at the pennies you've saved, or chastise yourself for not trying harder.
They're all gonna be st on fuel, they're all gonna break, even the fabled R-32 is a full time job to keep running these days, so buy the one which you want the most.
I completely agree. The heart says RX7 every time and I wish I had taken the splash 10 years ago when I didn't have so many financial responsibilities! Don't get me wrong, I had some nice cars back then (MX5, 325i Cab, Corrado VR6) but maybe I should have gone for something a bit more extreme (like an RX7)! If I can convince my wife that it's a good idea to get one (which I might be able to do), she'll be pretty pissed when we need to spend $3000+ for an engine rebuild! If I get one that has already had it done though, it would take me a long time to do 60k, if I'm only using it for 6 months of the year just for proper driving.But for me, there's no discussion on this. Two Turbos. Rotary Power. Wonderfully small car = more room to chuck around on the road. Make no mistake; I'd love one, but I'm too much of a wimp to replace my daily driver with one. There are economic ways of keeping them running however - engine rebuild services with 2-3 year warranties are possible with a rebuild costing ~£1500. The ball park figure is that an engine is good for up to 60k. You will want a compression test to prove the state the engine is in though. Budget for 12-15mpg and if you get more either smile at the pennies you've saved, or chastise yourself for not trying harder.
They're all gonna be s
t on fuel, they're all gonna break, even the fabled R-32 is a full time job to keep running these days, so buy the one which you want the most. Edited by Tib on Tuesday 27th May 23:10
Thanks everyone for all the other information and suggestions but I'm still not much closer to deciding what to go for! I would probably not go for something 4WD. I did consider another Impreza/Evo to use all-round as they would be a giggle in the snow but I think I would prefer something a bit more comfortable and practical for the winter (like a Mercedes)and something a bit more special for the summer. I know my 2004 WRX was fairly tame by Impreza/Evo standards but I think that I would prefer a more dedicated sports car than a souped-up saloon for the specialness factor! I only make an exception for the GTR because it's so iconic and has the power but I'm starting to think maybe a RWD Skyline turbo would be more fun (if slower) and a lot cheaper!
The most affordable, relatively risk-free option would seem to be the MR2 Turbo, although I would prefer the balance of RWD and a front engine. I've heard MR2s can be quite twitchy in the wet? What's a Rev3? The ones I have seen that I like the look of are just advertised as 1993 MR2 Turbos.
white_goodman said:
The most affordable, relatively risk-free option would seem to be the MR2 Turbo, although I would prefer the balance of RWD and a front engine. I've heard MR2s can be quite twitchy in the wet? What's a Rev3? The ones I have seen that I like the look of are just advertised as 1993 MR2 Turbos.
You're spoilt for choice really, there are so many options and each has its own quirks. Just goes to show how much was on offer in terms of affordable performance back in the 90s, and today we're left with FWD hot hatches 
I love the fact that I have a mid-engine car, powered by a rally bred engine that still garners positive attention 22 years after it rolled off the production line.Anyway, to answer your question regarding the MR2; the mk2 MR2 (SW20 chassis) had a series of revisions during its time in production. The earliest cars known as "Revision 1s" proved quite a handful for the ham-fisted and a great deal of criticism was directed towards it for its snappy, unpredictable handling on the edge of grip. To address those issues, in 1992 Toyota replaced the Rev 1's 14" alloys with 15s, fitted bigger brakes and altered the suspension geometry to make the car more stable and predictable, this model is known as the Revision 2.
In 1994 (cant remember exactly) Toyota made changes to the 3SGTE engine. The Rev 1+2 produced 220bhp and 220lb/ft, reached 60 in 5.7sec and had a top speed around 150/160mph (depending on source). Toyota replaced the Rev1/2's airflow meter with a MAP Sensor, changed the ct26 turbo for the c20b which was able to sustain maximum boost higher up the rev range modified the cylinder head, and fitted a steel headgasket in place of the earlier models composite item. Larger 540cc injectors replaced the early cars 440cc items. The changes equated to an additional 25hp bringing the peak power to 245bhp whilst torque remained the same and half a second was shaved from the 0-60 time which was now 5.2sec. This model became the Revision 3. Later revisions were made but the changes were merely cosmetic.
I've owned my MR2 Turbo for 10 years now, I simply haven't ever found anything within my budget that could replace it. At one point I had my heart set on an R32 GTR, I drove across the country to view one with the intention of buying it. I have never been so underwhelmed by a car, after the MR2 it felt so cumbersome and lazy I was shocked. I imagine you'd need at least 450bhp in one of those to make it worthwhile. So until I can afford a 996T or Honda NSX I think I'll be sticking with the old MR2.
And just to add, the MR2 Turbo was never officially imported, all those in the UK were grey imports. Good luck with your decision.
white_goodman said:
The most affordable, relatively risk-free option would seem to be the MR2 Turbo, although I would prefer the balance of RWD and a front engine. I've heard MR2s can be quite twitchy in the wet? What's a Rev3? The ones I have seen that I like the look of are just advertised as 1993 MR2 Turbos.
The earlier cars I think had cooling issues(not sure) but its means Revision 3 the made a lot of updates/upgrades and cosmetic changes, Rev 3-5 would be the best I think, there's also a 2.2T modelI always forget the s15 because there still worth afew dollars, also came with VVT(variable valve timing) There worth money because there actually quite a nice car, I'd almost say they are the most modern oldskool Jdm car in away, front engine, RWD and still fairly basic with mod-cons and comfort,
If the S14 don't do it and the s15 is abit expensive what about a PS13(are they available over your way) A friend had a K's model(For Kings, Q's is non turbo for Queens) and would be my favourite of the SR20 bunch
300zx is a savage looking car but have there issues, v6 is also a pig to work on(in car)
but can be picked up for peanuts, often thought Nissan should of fitted a RB25 in them(wouldn't of been designed), would of had more in common with the older straight 6 fairlady's, also cool that there's LWB and SWB models, and like the skylines have HI-CAS - Rear wheels turn a little too, better handling then they should be
MikeyMike said:
You're spoilt for choice really, there are so many options and each has its own quirks. Just goes to show how much was on offer in terms of affordable performance back in the 90s, and today we're left with FWD hot hatches I love the fact that I have a mid-engine car, powered by a rally bred engine that still garners positive attention 22 years after it rolled off the production line.
Anyway, to answer your question regarding the MR2; the mk2 MR2 (SW20 chassis) had a series of revisions during its time in production. The earliest cars known as "Revision 1s" proved quite a handful for the ham-fisted and a great deal of criticism was directed towards it for its snappy, unpredictable handling on the edge of grip. To address those issues, in 1992 Toyota replaced the Rev 1's 14" alloys with 15s, fitted bigger brakes and altered the suspension geometry to make the car more stable and predictable, this model is known as the Revision 2.
In 1994 (cant remember exactly) Toyota made changes to the 3SGTE engine. The Rev 1+2 produced 220bhp and 220lb/ft, reached 60 in 5.7sec and had a top speed around 150/160mph (depending on source). Toyota replaced the Rev1/2's airflow meter with a MAP Sensor, changed the ct26 turbo for the c20b which was able to sustain maximum boost higher up the rev range modified the cylinder head, and fitted a steel headgasket in place of the earlier models composite item. Larger 540cc injectors replaced the early cars 440cc items. The changes equated to an additional 25hp bringing the peak power to 245bhp whilst torque remained the same and half a second was shaved from the 0-60 time which was now 5.2sec. This model became the Revision 3. Later revisions were made but the changes were merely cosmetic.
I've owned my MR2 Turbo for 10 years now, I simply haven't ever found anything within my budget that could replace it. At one point I had my heart set on an R32 GTR, I drove across the country to view one with the intention of buying it. I have never been so underwhelmed by a car, after the MR2 it felt so cumbersome and lazy I was shocked. I imagine you'd need at least 450bhp in one of those to make it worthwhile. So until I can afford a 996T or Honda NSX I think I'll be sticking with the old MR2.
And just to add, the MR2 Turbo was never officially imported, all those in the UK were grey imports. Good luck with your decision.
Thanks for the MR2 lesson and it's impressive that you preferred it to the R32. I can see why people rave about the Rev3s now. I read the earlier models have about 200bhp stock, which I guess in such a small, light car would be pretty quick but it sounds like the Rev3 is as bonkers as an RX7/Supra/Skyline. I love the fact that I have a mid-engine car, powered by a rally bred engine that still garners positive attention 22 years after it rolled off the production line.Anyway, to answer your question regarding the MR2; the mk2 MR2 (SW20 chassis) had a series of revisions during its time in production. The earliest cars known as "Revision 1s" proved quite a handful for the ham-fisted and a great deal of criticism was directed towards it for its snappy, unpredictable handling on the edge of grip. To address those issues, in 1992 Toyota replaced the Rev 1's 14" alloys with 15s, fitted bigger brakes and altered the suspension geometry to make the car more stable and predictable, this model is known as the Revision 2.
In 1994 (cant remember exactly) Toyota made changes to the 3SGTE engine. The Rev 1+2 produced 220bhp and 220lb/ft, reached 60 in 5.7sec and had a top speed around 150/160mph (depending on source). Toyota replaced the Rev1/2's airflow meter with a MAP Sensor, changed the ct26 turbo for the c20b which was able to sustain maximum boost higher up the rev range modified the cylinder head, and fitted a steel headgasket in place of the earlier models composite item. Larger 540cc injectors replaced the early cars 440cc items. The changes equated to an additional 25hp bringing the peak power to 245bhp whilst torque remained the same and half a second was shaved from the 0-60 time which was now 5.2sec. This model became the Revision 3. Later revisions were made but the changes were merely cosmetic.
I've owned my MR2 Turbo for 10 years now, I simply haven't ever found anything within my budget that could replace it. At one point I had my heart set on an R32 GTR, I drove across the country to view one with the intention of buying it. I have never been so underwhelmed by a car, after the MR2 it felt so cumbersome and lazy I was shocked. I imagine you'd need at least 450bhp in one of those to make it worthwhile. So until I can afford a 996T or Honda NSX I think I'll be sticking with the old MR2.
And just to add, the MR2 Turbo was never officially imported, all those in the UK were grey imports. Good luck with your decision.
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