Oh noes! Drivers speeding! 149mph! Think of the children!
Oh noes! Drivers speeding! 149mph! Think of the children!
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MissChief

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7,977 posts

197 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27587130

While I don't condone speeding in any way shape or form (even though I and millions of others do it on a daily basis) it would be nice to have some context in the report. What limited time I've spent on the M25 it would be nigh on impossible to do 49Mph most of the time I've been unfortunate enough to travel on it so therefore I can only assume this was a '4am' job, yet the writing seems like it want to, almost on purpose, make people shocked and appalled at the speeds achieved. Speed apparently doesn't matter anymore here either. Of course the issue is they got caught. At 4AM, the only time it would have been possible on most of those roads the only people likely to be injured are the drivers themselves. Really just worried about the lack of context really.

DanielSan

19,997 posts

196 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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I can see this thread going well tomorrow.

Magic919

14,482 posts

230 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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With a fast vehicle it would be possible to hit 150 on a Saturday afternoon, with traffic. Maintaining it for long would be tricky, but it wouldn't need empty roads.

4G63T

2,947 posts

201 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Kent Police spokesman said a man in his 20s appeared at West Kent Magistrates' Court in March and was disqualified from driving for six months. He was also fined £600 and ordered to pay £85 costs and a victim surcharge of £65.


again, i have said this in a different thread, but where the hell is the victim in someone speeding along a motorway???


if they did not crash into anyone, or even clip anyone who is the 65 quid 'victim surcharge' going to?? the polar bears? as thats the only thing i can think of for being effected in you going that fast, an it would take millions of people to do that speed constantly to affect the polar ice caps more than, say, china or all the other industry around the world.

4G63T

2,947 posts

201 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Kent Police spokesman said a man in his 20s appeared at West Kent Magistrates' Court in March and was disqualified from driving for six months. He was also fined £600 and ordered to pay £85 costs and a victim surcharge of £65.


again, i have said this in a different thread, but where the hell is the victim in someone speeding along a motorway???


if they did not crash into anyone, or even clip anyone who is the 65 quid 'victim surcharge' going to?? the polar bears? as thats the only thing i can think of for being effected in you going that fast, an it would take millions of people to do that speed constantly to affect the polar ice caps more than, say, china or all the other industry around the world.

Pebbles167

4,572 posts

181 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Their stty little table is missing the columns for "time of day" and "traffic conditions"

Bellends. I dont condone reckless driving, but I really couldn't give a toss what the maximum speed of some cars were.

I.A.M seem to be cocks a lot of the time.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

159 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Are the IAM saying that no UK driver should be allowed to drive at a speed considered as appropriate on an unlimited section of autobahn in the right conditions.In which case 149 mph wouldn't be considered as some uncontrollable suicidal event which the IAM seem to be suggesting that it is.

Baryonyx

18,280 posts

188 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Since when did the IAM turn into Brake?

Kawasicki

14,359 posts

264 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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So some drivers drive at medium speeds. Woopy do.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

159 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Baryonyx said:
Since when did the IAM turn into Brake?
I'd have my doubts as to the level of 'advancement' of any driver who is saying that a car becomes uncontrollable at 149 mph.

peterbredde

775 posts

229 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Can't see a problem with the article. The information provided is probably all that is available.

Dave Hedgehog

16,315 posts

233 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Would be interesting to know how many of these where on bikes


And phew, I am not on the list wink

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Wednesday 28th May 06:01

greygoose

9,661 posts

224 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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peterbredde said:
Can't see a problem with the article. The information provided is probably all that is available.
Just seems to be the facts and comment by IAM, I am not sure what IAM's angle is in wanting to know this information but it hardly seems a sensationalist article.
Just heard the IAM bloke on the radio and apparently they want more speed cameras to tackle such speeding........

Edited by greygoose on Wednesday 28th May 06:47

Lordbenny

8,751 posts

248 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Because Speed Mat...oh hang on! wink

Randy Winkman

22,371 posts

218 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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4G63T said:


again, i have said this in a different thread, but where the hell is the victim in someone speeding along a motorway???
A bit like drink-driving? I'd say there are no victims in most cases of that.

Escort3500

13,462 posts

174 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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A few months ago on another thread I asked about victim surcharge on a matter that didn't seem to justify such a charge, and was told that it doesn't go to the 'victim' of a specific offence but into a central pot of money that's used where victims are deemed to be entitled to a payment.

crazy about cars

4,454 posts

198 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Randy Winkman said:
4G63T said:


again, i have said this in a different thread, but where the hell is the victim in someone speeding along a motorway???
A bit like drink-driving? I'd say there are no victims in most cases of that.
This.

Some people may think 150 is not very quick but that really depends on road conditions and the driver. I've been in cars that are capably of 180mph+ but I'd never try it on public roads. There's always a chance something beyond your control can happen. However I don't think "demonising" speeding would be effective - it's far better to educate and provide support and advice.

My ideal solution would be to implement high speed lanes. Vehicles using this lane must pass an "advanced MOT" and the driver also undertake advanced driver training. High speed lanes must be maintained to highest standards to ensure road conditions are safe for use. Win-win for both government and motorist IMO but perhaps not viable to implement...

Major Fallout

5,278 posts

260 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Mr Best added: "Speed limits are a limit. They are not a target to beat.


Then why do we get points when we beat them, stupid!

This guy is usless he knows nothing.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

177 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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XJ Flyer said:
Baryonyx said:
Since when did the IAM turn into Brake?
I'd have my doubts as to the level of 'advancement' of any driver who is saying that a car becomes uncontrollable at 149 mph.
No one said that.

Usget

5,426 posts

240 months

Wednesday 28th May 2014
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Man from BRAKE said:
The current guidelines on sentencing for excessive speeding offences are out of sync with modern roads, modern vehicles and society's view of the value of lives lost in crashes."
You mean the sort of modern vehicles which are far better in terms of passive, active and pedestrian safety than those which were the norm when these rules were concocted?