Tuned Jap Coupe or American muscle?
Tuned Jap Coupe or American muscle?
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white_goodman

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4,521 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Thanks for your responses if you have already written on my Jap 90s turbo coupe post. I think I've probably narrowed it down to three cars.



with some reservations about engine longevity



TT manual of course or



or the R34 version but not necessarily a GTR (R32 looks the nuts though)!

Or possibly an MR2 Turbo Rev3 (haven't really narrowed it down at all then)!

However, for similar money, I could get a newer V8 one of these or possibly a convertible version!



On the plus side, it's a newer car and parts/aftermarket parts are probably more readily available over here and cheaper (Canada). I have a Mazda/Toyota/Nissan dealer local to me but I doubt they have never even seen, let alone sold an RX7/Supra/Skyline. On the downside it won't be as fast or handle as well as any of the above but I believe can be made to go faster/handle better if you have the inclination. I also think Mustang values (due to higher numbers currently) have some way to fall, whereas the older cars if in good condition are probably not going to depreciate any further. If I was still UK-based I would go for the Jap option (or a BMW/Porsche) any day but out here in Canada where the roads are arrow straight, the Mustang has a certain charm!

A tuned Jap coupe and a V8 muscle car (or pony car if we're being persnickety) are both on my aspire to own list, so which one? I'm in my mid-30s now and would intend to keep this car a very long time, as I only intend to use it in the summer months and it's a one-off cash purchase probably until the kids start driving (about 14 years time), at which point I will probably sell it and get something for them to drive (I will run a more practical car all-year round alongside and obviously change this more regularly)!

I get the feeling an RX7/Supra/Skyline is more of a young man's car and although my daughter has no sense of embarassment at the moment and shares my love for cars (she's only two), I imagine she would think I'm a bit sad picking her up from school in a tuned Skyline when she's an easily embarassed teenager and I'm nearly 50 (a Mustang maybe less so)! Having said that, I could save the Mustang until I retire, at which point a V8 Camaro or Challenger ought to be in budget too (or an F-Type or Aston if I'm doing really well)!

Any thoughts?

V8RX7

28,982 posts

292 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Do you drive fast - ie 100+ on suitable A roads ?

If yes then the Mustang will disappoint.
If no then there's no point getting fast Jap stuff as they only get interesting at those speeds.

Edit: Canada - unless you have some twisty narrow roads then the Jap cars are wasted on you might as well have the better V8 soundtrack




Edited by V8RX7 on Thursday 29th May 20:02

BigBo

212 posts

151 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Mustang would be my choice once there's a v8 involved, and there's plenty of upgrades available/will be, would be a lot easier to maintain over your way too I'd think

ukzz4iroc

3,500 posts

203 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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RX-7 hands down. Mustang is dull.

white_goodman

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4,521 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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V8RX7 said:
Do you drive fast - ie 100+ on suitable A roads ?

If yes then the Mustang will disappoint.
If no then there's no point getting fast Jap stuff as they only get interesting at those speeds.

Edit: Canada - unless you have some twisty narrow roads then the Jap cars are wasted on you might as well have the better V8 soundtrack




Edited by V8RX7 on Thursday 29th May 20:02
Well, I do live my life a quarter of a mile at a time but as I got a $400 speeding ticket in my first month here for doing 120 (km/h) in my MIL's Yaris, then I guess I won't be driving that fast!

Andy616

461 posts

164 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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It was the one with the racing pedigree for me.



I had a 4 hour journey in it earlier this week and still didn't want to get out of it at the end. biggrin

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

159 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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For me it would be something by GM or Mopar with some serious tuning mods if possible

MarvGTI

427 posts

154 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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As before on your other thread, R32 all the way!

hehe

Caruso

7,554 posts

285 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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Papercup on here has an RX7 with an LS6 engine - the best of both worlds?

Mastodon2

14,323 posts

194 months

Thursday 29th May 2014
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In your other thread you mentioned your nearest rotary engine specialist was 12 hours drive away. Don't get an RX7 unless you like the idea of trailering an RX7 on 2000 mile round trips to get it looked at. You can do things to extend rotary engine life, but just the same as any engine, things wear and it will eventually lose compression, it just happens to do it a lot faster than a piston engine.

As much as I love Jap performance stuff, if I lived on your continent there is no way I'd choose one over a Mustang.

white_goodman

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4,521 posts

220 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Andy616 said:
It was the one with the racing pedigree for me.



I had a 4 hour journey in it earlier this week and still didn't want to get out of it at the end. biggrin
Awesome! Worth driving an Astra for?

white_goodman

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4,521 posts

220 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Gaz. said:
You're an ex=pat in Canada iirc? if it was me I'd buy something over there that is hard/expensive to get here. ie get a Corvette over there and if you come back get a Supra (or a variation of the same theme).
Too wide for my garage sadly. Plus I find the image a bit porn star/Hugh Hefner!

Andy616

461 posts

164 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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white_goodman said:
Awesome! Worth driving an Astra for?
laugh Absolutely. I'm actually quite attached to the Astra, it was my first car. I can't believe I've had it 8 years now.

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

247 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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ukzz4iroc said:
RX-7 hands down. Mustang is dull.
Owned one have you?

I have for five years, I use it as a daily driver, I race it, I have fun with it. Dull is not a word that applies to the Mustang.

OP: I cannot speak for the other cars as I have not driven (or even been driven in them) But as I said I have owned a 2006 Mustang GT (Coupe, Automatic) for five years and I it has been a great car, reliable, practical, no messing about, it just works.

Raize

1,476 posts

208 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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So is the Jap stuff actually fast point to point on B-roads?

V8RX7

28,982 posts

292 months

Friday 30th May 2014
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Raize said:
So is the Jap stuff actually fast point to point on B-roads?
Oh yes particularly the R32 GTR and RX7 - Supra is better on A roads (it's bigger and heavier) but can be made into a formidable track car.

Take a look on Youtube - type whichever model you fancy there is some great footage "Touge" is worth adding.