Should it be 5-65mph rather than 0-60mph?
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As any road tester will tell you, the 0-60 run initial launch of the line is the key to a good time. Often takes a good few practices to get the revs and clutch technique sorted. My idea of 5-65 is still 60mph speed increase, but it's not dependent on technique and skill. Anyone can do it, and it really is an indication of the grunt of the car. And it doesn't fry tyres, clutches and explode transmissions.
I never pay any attention to published 0-60 times these days are they are as much down to the individual road surface and general brutality as anything else.
But we don't need to adopt 5-65. We already have widely quoted times which are better substitutes, and already widely available for any road tested car.
30-70 and 60-90 times are both conveniently about the same number as a 0-60 time for a reasonably quick car. And both of them are ones that you actually might care about, being representative of a slip-road entry to a motorway, and a typical overtaking manoeuvre on a decent road.
But we don't need to adopt 5-65. We already have widely quoted times which are better substitutes, and already widely available for any road tested car.
30-70 and 60-90 times are both conveniently about the same number as a 0-60 time for a reasonably quick car. And both of them are ones that you actually might care about, being representative of a slip-road entry to a motorway, and a typical overtaking manoeuvre on a decent road.
I'd prefer 0-60 to remain, albeit starting from idle rather than holding high revs waiting for a light.
Contrary to most on PH, I quite like 0-60 times as a general indicator of performance however I do mentally downgrade some types of cars such as diesels due to their poor responsiveness.
I'm interested in indications of getting away from a roundabout or T-junction from a standstill.
Contrary to most on PH, I quite like 0-60 times as a general indicator of performance however I do mentally downgrade some types of cars such as diesels due to their poor responsiveness.
I'm interested in indications of getting away from a roundabout or T-junction from a standstill.
)robinessex said:
My idea of 5-65 is still 60mph speed increase, but it's not dependent on technique and skill. Anyone can do it, and it really is an indication of the grunt of the car.
Perhaps you are missing the points that different measurements over different increments provide. Do you think performance statistics should only be a measure of grunt and nothing to do with how well a car is capable of putting the power down?There are plenty of other stats for that, 20-50, 30-60, 50-100, 30-100, in any given gear, through the gears etc etc........ plenty of other stats out there for that.
0-60, 0-100 and 1/4 mile are indicative of how well a car performs from a standing start, that is their purpose.
Loads of other statistics are there purely for testing how grunty a car is once rolling.
As above, the Americans have been doing 5mph+ speed tests for years. Nothing new about the general concept of rolling starts.
Like it or not, the 0-60mph rating is easy to understand, and gives an instant comparison of a car's general performance. That is why it remains such a popular stat with suppliers and buyers.
If you know a car does 0-60mph in 4secs, you know immediately it will be quick anywhere at any speed up to 100mph (where ~98% of all driving on UK roads takes place)... If you know a car does 0-60mph in 10secs, you know immediately it will be average or slow at all speeds.
Like it or not, the 0-60mph rating is easy to understand, and gives an instant comparison of a car's general performance. That is why it remains such a popular stat with suppliers and buyers.
If you know a car does 0-60mph in 4secs, you know immediately it will be quick anywhere at any speed up to 100mph (where ~98% of all driving on UK roads takes place)... If you know a car does 0-60mph in 10secs, you know immediately it will be average or slow at all speeds.
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