Schumacher out of coma
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moffat

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Monday 16th June 2014
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Breaking news:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27868787

Wonder what kind of condition he is in?

Good luck Schumi!

dienamic

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232 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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Seems very out of the blue! Hope he's ok, last report I read last week said he was being moved to a rehab unit out of intensive care as there was no longer any hope for improvement!
I just hope someone hasn't got their wires / translation crossed.

marctwo

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289 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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Fingers crossed he can make a reasonable recovery.

moffat

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epom

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190 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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Super news smile

TankRizzo

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222 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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Awesome news!!!

J4CKO

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Monday 16th June 2014
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Marvellous news !

LasseV

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Monday 16th June 2014
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!!! smile

soad

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205 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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Fantastic!

GSP

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Monday 16th June 2014
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Doesn't say much about his condition though... Did he walk out, is he a vegetable?

You can keep anyone alive indefinitely, whether or not they should be is another question.

Impasse

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270 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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GSP said:
Doesn't say much about his condition though... Did he walk out, is he a vegetable?

You can keep anyone alive indefinitely, whether or not they should be is another question.
From the Sky link above:

However, the racing legend's chief doctor said in March that it was unlikely he would ever fully recover from the accident.
Doctor Gary Hartstein wrote on his blog: "As time goes on, it becomes less and less likely that Michael will emerge to any significant extent."

Lanby

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243 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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Great news, but quoting SKY "For the future we ask for understanding that his further rehabilitation will take place away from the public eye."

So expect loads of speculation and 'this could happen' scenarios!

Edited by Lanby on Monday 16th June 16:23

richs2891

906 posts

282 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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Excellent news, Hope he makes a full recovery

Ali_T

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286 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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Might be a misinterpretation of the facts going on...

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/383709...

Being out of a coma but unconscious is still pretty serious, sadly.

daveofedinburgh

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148 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Read a link to an article on Twitter today which kinda takes the edge off the 'good news' unfortunately.

Digging a little further I found that many top experts point out that the fact he's no longer 'in a coma' is virtually meaningless.

Coma essentially means no reaction at all, ie. no eye opening for example.

The fact that Schuey is able to open his eyes by definition means he is no longer in a coma, but does not mean that he is able to breathe independently. He has not gone into rehab, and so is therefore more likely to be artificially respirated and his care has simply moved from the hospital to another location.

His current status is still regarded by many neuro experts as a 'vegetative state', and so is not as far removed from a coma as many of the feel-good reports today would have us believe.

The length of time in which he was in a coma/ vegetative state do not bode well for anything like a full recovery. In fact, most of the expert opinion seems to concur that he is highly unlikely to make anything like a full recovery/ return to a normal life.

One expert pointed out that people are largely unaware of the damage prolonged unconsciousness/ reduced consciousness causes. Movies and TV have conditioned most of us to believe that a person can be 'knocked out' and awake some time later as if waking from sleep. This is simply not the case. If knocked unconscious, anything more than afew hours indicates serious damage with lasting implications for recovery.

It seems that the language used in the reports on Scheuy today has been very carefully chosen to perhaps over-emphasise his chances of full recovery. This has perhaps been done at the request of his family/ advice of doctors to allow a prolonged period in which they can attempt to assess/ rehabilitate, hopefully under reduced scrutiny/ speculation.

I hate to put a downer on things, I would love nothing more than to see Schuey be 100% again, but scratching below the surface and reading (seemingly) unbiased professional opinion on his condition does not bode well.

Would he want to live on in anything even remotely resembling a vegetative/ severely impaired state? Im not sure that the great man would.

Kinky

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