Round-a-bout help
Discussion
Hello folk, I'm slightly confused with this round-a-bout with regards to what is correct and what isn't. I am happy to be corrected and accept fault if you tell me so.
This is what I believe is the correct way to use this Island and the way I use when I take the exit (I am the yellow)
This happened to me last night and has happened a few times so I think I might be wrong (should a crash occur)
I was the yellow line following that route and a car next to me was the green. I stayed in my lane all the way to the exit as usual but the car on my inside just moved over (right next to me without looking so obviously assuming I'm not there or should be somewhere else) causing me to quickly move over into the other lane (black line) to which I believe is for the green line in picture one (not two). This has happened before so I think I am doing something wrong, please correct me if I am!
This is what I believe is the correct way to use this Island and the way I use when I take the exit (I am the yellow)
This happened to me last night and has happened a few times so I think I might be wrong (should a crash occur)
I was the yellow line following that route and a car next to me was the green. I stayed in my lane all the way to the exit as usual but the car on my inside just moved over (right next to me without looking so obviously assuming I'm not there or should be somewhere else) causing me to quickly move over into the other lane (black line) to which I believe is for the green line in picture one (not two). This has happened before so I think I am doing something wrong, please correct me if I am!
As far as I can see, you were both right.
(Except for the poor lane change).
Both those lanes go off at that junction.
Ideally when you pass the last unwanted exit you should move into the outside lane ready for your exit.
But, on a busy roundabout that's sometimes not possible, or it's better to stay out in the middle lane to allow traffic to pull out to the side of you.
From a 'defensive' driver standpoint I think you should decide which lane to be in based on the traffic to your left or right.
(Except for the poor lane change).
Both those lanes go off at that junction.
Ideally when you pass the last unwanted exit you should move into the outside lane ready for your exit.
But, on a busy roundabout that's sometimes not possible, or it's better to stay out in the middle lane to allow traffic to pull out to the side of you.
From a 'defensive' driver standpoint I think you should decide which lane to be in based on the traffic to your left or right.
Snowboy said:
As far as I can see, you were both right.
(Except for the poor lane change).
Both those lanes go off at that junction.
Ideally when you pass the last unwanted exit you should move into the outside lane ready for your exit.
But, on a busy roundabout that's sometimes not possible, or it's better to stay out in the middle lane to allow traffic to pull out to the side of you.
From a 'defensive' driver standpoint I think you should decide which lane to be in based on the traffic to your left or right.
If the person ran into the side of me because I didn't move who's fault would it be? My lane requires no changes and his lane requires me to move over to exit. (Except for the poor lane change).
Both those lanes go off at that junction.
Ideally when you pass the last unwanted exit you should move into the outside lane ready for your exit.
But, on a busy roundabout that's sometimes not possible, or it's better to stay out in the middle lane to allow traffic to pull out to the side of you.
From a 'defensive' driver standpoint I think you should decide which lane to be in based on the traffic to your left or right.
Corpulent Tosser said:
I may be wrong, but the way I would drive that roundabout from your starting point would be to do as your yellow line up to the exit prior to your exit, as I passed that exit I would indicate left and move to the leftmost lane and exit on the left lane of the exit.
This is often difficult due to cars being on my left coming from the other exit and they can't move anywhere. I have tried this before. GravelMachineGun said:
If the person ran into the side of me because I didn't move who's fault would it be? My lane requires no changes and his lane requires me to move over to exit.
Whether you're right or wrong the problem is that I've found that 95% of insurance claims on a roundabout will go 50/50.FWIW the way you think the roundabout lanes work is the same as I would expect them to work. How I actually use them depends on the amount of traffic around at time time, if there's lots I'm less inclined to move lanes.
I think you are in the right. Certiainly more in the right than the person who encroached on you in pic 2.
To mitigate, if traffic is light on your left, you might wish to move into the left most lane after you pass the exit immediately before your chosen exit. If you can't do that, then you are perfectly in the right in both pics I would think.
To mitigate, if traffic is light on your left, you might wish to move into the left most lane after you pass the exit immediately before your chosen exit. If you can't do that, then you are perfectly in the right in both pics I would think.
GravelMachineGun said:
If the person ran into the side of me because I didn't move who's fault would it be? My lane requires no changes and his lane requires me to move over to exit.
They would be wrong.But, this isn't so much about being in the correct lane, it's about the correct use of all the lanes when traversing a roundabout.
After you pass the blue exit you should move left, then people in the green entrance give way and merge with you.
By staying in the middle lane all the way round your blocking everyone from changing lanes for two thirds of the roundabout.
You're pretty much being an mlm on the roundabout.
GravelMachineGun said:
Esseesse said:
Whether you're right or wrong the problem is that I've found that 95% of insurance claims on a roundabout will go 50/50.
That worries me after seeing all these insurance fraud claims on dash-cams Many years ago now (thankfully) a stupid b
h drove into the side of me on a roundabout as she flew past. It was entirely her fault (no I'm not just saying that) but thanks to her lying father (not at the accident, and incidentally a car dealer who I have seen advertise on PH) re-inventing the chain of events, the insurance went 50/50. 
If I was the green car I'd give way to the right and not join whilst a car was approaching even if I saw the yellow car was in the middle lane.
So I'd say it's the green car's fault, but when/if it did pull onto the roundabout you'd have to expect further f-wittery.
Of course this wouldn't happen if you were in a BMW Convertible. (sorry, p-taking from another thread)
So I'd say it's the green car's fault, but when/if it did pull onto the roundabout you'd have to expect further f-wittery.
Of course this wouldn't happen if you were in a BMW Convertible. (sorry, p-taking from another thread)
looking at the images you've posted of the roundabout it looks like the green lane isn't supposed to come off at that exit. It looks from the road markings (arrows) that the green lane is for taking the last exit only? Get a dash cam and if anything does go wrong hopefully you can fight your corner.
Snowboy said:
After you pass the blue exit you should move left, then people in the green entrance give way and merge with you.
By staying in the middle lane all the way round your blocking everyone from changing lanes for two thirds of the roundabout.
You're pretty much being an mlm on the roundabout.
I mentioned I can't usually move left due to the other cars coming out the exit...By staying in the middle lane all the way round your blocking everyone from changing lanes for two thirds of the roundabout.
You're pretty much being an mlm on the roundabout.
Roundozo said:
looking at the images you've posted of the roundabout it looks like the green lane isn't supposed to come off at that exit. It looks from the road markings (arrows) that the green lane is for taking the last exit only? Get a dash cam and if anything does go wrong hopefully you can fight your corner.
So basically;Blue - first exit only
Yellow - second and third only
red - last exit
I would take the roundabout the same as you, the only difference would be moving left before exiting.
In your second picture, at the 6 o'clock position, your yellow line skirts above a white car and you can see a left-turn arrow in the road. I would move into that lane at that point assuming no one was coming up my side.
In your second picture, at the 6 o'clock position, your yellow line skirts above a white car and you can see a left-turn arrow in the road. I would move into that lane at that point assuming no one was coming up my side.
GravelMachineGun said:
Snowboy said:
After you pass the blue exit you should move left, then people in the green entrance give way and merge with you.
By staying in the middle lane all the way round your blocking everyone from changing lanes for two thirds of the roundabout.
You're pretty much being an mlm on the roundabout.
I mentioned I can't usually move left due to the other cars coming out the exit...By staying in the middle lane all the way round your blocking everyone from changing lanes for two thirds of the roundabout.
You're pretty much being an mlm on the roundabout.
I zoomed in on the picture and I see that the green entrance is designed to stop you pulling left after the green exit and to let green cars out into the outside lane.
It's a crap roundabout.
I'd guess it's been altered over time.
In which case you best bet is to do what you do in terms if staying in the yellow lane, but be prepared to allow traffic to merge from the right.
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