Idiots who don't even realise it
Idiots who don't even realise it
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Hackney

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7,429 posts

237 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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A mild rant to kick off the day.

I was driving through London this morning and encountered an idiot.
Example 1 (which first alerted me): approaching traffic lights on Sussex Rd. Here
The right hand lane is right turn only and has a separate traffic light (on red). The left lane is for straight on and is green. I'm in the left lane. Mr Idiot is in the right lane and steams through straight on, so wrong lane and ran a red light.

A few minutes later, example 2. We're both waiting at the lights on Brook Street to go into Hyde Park, me in the right lane, him in the left lane right next to me. Here
You'll notice the no right turn arrow on the traffic light. Although it's not clear two lanes go through the gate posts into the park. Usually those in the left lane are turning left just after the gate posts (where the front car in the line is goint). But there's room for both lanes to go through the gates and merge, to go where the white van is.

Mr Idiot is in the left lane and goes straight across, basically switching from left lane to right lane over the yellow box. I pip, he gives me the beans out the window. Further through Hyde Park we end up having a bit of a chat. It becomes clear he doesn't have any idea what he's done. Telling me I tried to push in, coming into Hyde Park. I tell him, I must be able to go straight on because there's no right turn there. His response?
"Yeah, yeah, you in your.... your.... little toy car"

At which point I collapsed in hysterics.
My car is a BMW 1 Series. His car is a (BMW) Mini.

(Poor rant / worst "I own a 1 Series thread ever" / why do you even drive in London etc, etc, etc)

y2blade

56,318 posts

244 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Was this worth posting about?

manmaths

476 posts

169 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Crap insults are the best! You just have to laugh.

I remember doing something stupid at the age of 10 and my dad saying "if you don't stop that...I'll...I'm...eh...I'm going to FINE you!"

We still laugh about it 18 years later.

Pan Pan

1,116 posts

156 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Hackney said:
A mild rant to kick off the day.

I was driving through London this morning and encountered an idiot.
Example 1 (which first alerted me): approaching traffic lights on Sussex Rd. Here
The right hand lane is right turn only and has a separate traffic light (on red). The left lane is for straight on and is green. I'm in the left lane. Mr Idiot is in the right lane and steams through straight on, so wrong lane and ran a red light.

A few minutes later, example 2. We're both waiting at the lights on Brook Street to go into Hyde Park, me in the right lane, him in the left lane right next to me. Here
You'll notice the no right turn arrow on the traffic light. Although it's not clear two lanes go through the gate posts into the park. Usually those in the left lane are turning left just after the gate posts (where the front car in the line is goint). But there's room for both lanes to go through the gates and merge, to go where the white van is.

Mr Idiot is in the left lane and goes straight across, basically switching from left lane to right lane over the yellow box. I pip, he gives me the beans out the window. Further through Hyde Park we end up having a bit of a chat. It becomes clear he doesn't have any idea what he's done. Telling me I tried to push in, coming into Hyde Park. I tell him, I must be able to go straight on because there's no right turn there. His response?
"Yeah, yeah, you in your.... your.... little toy car"

At which point I collapsed in hysterics.
My car is a BMW 1 Series. His car is a (BMW) Mini.

(Poor rant / worst "I own a 1 Series thread ever" / why do you even drive in London etc, etc, etc)
There is a similar situation at the new junction of the A13 at Corringham. Two slip lanes off the west bound A13, with the left hand lane, clearly marked with huge turn left arrows to turn to Corringham, but still there are T*ts who drive up the L/H lane who then go either straight across the roundabout and in some cases even go right on the roundabout to head North!

Hackney

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7,429 posts

237 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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y2blade said:
Was this worth posting about?
Was it worth replying?

My point is, the guy nearly caused an accident and didn't realise he'd done anything wrong.
He also ran a red light, again, not realising he'd done anything wrong.

I'd almost prefer someone who does something dangerous and knows it than someone completely oblivious to the fact.

Edited by Hackney on Tuesday 1st July 09:06

y2blade

56,318 posts

244 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Hackney said:
y2blade said:
Was this worth posting about?
Was it worth replying?

My point is, the guy nearly caused an accident and didn't realise he'd done anything wrong.
He also ran a red light, again, not realising he'd done anything wrong.

I'd almost prefer someone who does something dangerous and knows it than someone completely oblivious to the fact.

Edited by Hackney on Tuesday 1st July 09:06
Is this the first time you've come across this sort of person?


austinsmirk

5,597 posts

152 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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no- yr both as bad as each other and you both drive ladies cars.

man up wink

Jasandjules

72,588 posts

258 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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OP I see this kind of stuff most of the time I go out. There is also the old fogie roundabout system which I rely upon and which has prevented many an accident i.e. see old fogie in the left lane, expect them to straighten up the roundabout even though I am sat in the right lane turning right, you know, a large estate car or a TVR, neither hugely subtle and both of which will block their view of the roundabout...

Hackney

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7,429 posts

237 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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y2blade said:
Is this the first time you've come across this sort of person?
No. Your point being?

HarryW

16,028 posts

298 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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I think by definition an idiot wouldn't be bright enough to know he was an idiot, in fact he would be the last to know.
I always drive assuming everyone else is an idiot regardless, it's worked for me for over 30 years.

limpsfield

6,666 posts

282 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Hackney said:
y2blade said:
Is this the first time you've come across this sort of person?
No. Your point being?
I don't understand it either.

Drivers in London are courteous and skilled.

These incidences must be incredibly rare.

OP, please keep us informed of any other capital-located driving idiocy. But I don't think there will be anymore - this was something of a Black Swan on the probability scale.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

313 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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I must admit that I find that road marking not set out in a sensible way and tied in with direction signs often put me in the wrong place at a junction or going around a roundabout. Biggest issue I find is the local yokels that know the secret of the passage to take are not forgiving and take no quarter.

One junction oop norf had me in the outside lane of two going straight on up a hill. A hundred yards before a right turn junction the right hand lane became a right turn only. One road junction sign and no filter right only signage apart from the road arrows changed from straight on to right turn. The left lane were not helpful in letting me in. It was nose to tail traffic crawling towards Manchester on the morning drag.

But then there are those that barge to the front and the rules don't apply.

Hackney

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7,429 posts

237 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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stereotypicalPHresponse said:
Is this thread going the way you'd hoped OP?
Did I miss a meeting?
The one where it was decided you couldn't just have a moan about something and if people weren't interestd, they just ignored it?
The one where if something had happened before, or was likely to happen again you couldn't start a topic?

There are bad drivers in London (everywhere) so no more threads on bad driving?
People park badly, always have, always will, so I presume the bad parking thread (currently in it's 4th volume) won't be added to?
What about "Stupid things non petrolheads say", brought to an end after 4 years?


Hackney

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7,429 posts

237 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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HarryW said:
I think by definition an idiot wouldn't be bright enough to know he was an idiot, in fact he would be the last to know.
I always drive assuming everyone else is an idiot regardless, it's worked for me for over 30 years.
Totally agree.

Cliftonite

8,740 posts

167 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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OP, in your first example, the lane markings are advisory. If the driver in the right-hand lane went straight on he did not "jump the light" ; he had the same green arrow as did you.

In your second example, is seems odd that only the right-hand lane seems to have an arrow painted on the road. The gates into the park seem a little narrow for two vehicles side-by-side, so I would expect a merge-in-turn scenario to be appropriate.




JonRB

80,038 posts

301 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Today on the M3 was a fine example of an idiot who doesn't know it.

I was in the inside lane and wanted to move out into the middle lane. There was a car approaching extremely slowly in the middle lane who simply refused to move out into the (clear) outside lane despite me having been indicating for plenty of time but I eventually persuaded them. Once there, they proceeded to just stay in the outside lane for ages despite not gaining on me (in fact I was pulling away from them in the middle lane) until someone finally came bombing up behind them flashing their lights. They then returned to the middle lane despite the inside lane being clear.

Oblivious.


Sump

5,511 posts

196 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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This isn't worth starting a thread but it is worth replying.

I wish our rules were more like other countries further east. The more expensive car gets priority.

thatdude

2,660 posts

156 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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You know, sometimes you just have to accept that there are idiots out there. And that you will encounter them. Driving is full of idiots.

I find it easiest to just let them go...either let them get away from me, or I get away from them.


Also this thread is useless without a good DashCam recording to piss all over.

Vee

3,109 posts

263 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Central London . . you always encounter morons who cannot drive.
Out of interest, what happened between him steaming through the lights in a RH only lane and the lights to go into the park ?
There is a turn around the Royal Lancaster and into Stanhope Terrace.
People are ALWAYS in the wrong lane around there and you've both ended up alogside each other on Brook st.

ManiacGT

537 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st July 2014
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Sigh.. why do people feel the need to control others on here... let the OP have a moan if he wants to, its a public forum. If you don't like it, ignore it/go away. Its negative controlling posts and people that make the forums go downhill and people that enjoy using them want to leave.

Its the old one again, if you don't have anything good to say... then don't say it.

As to your post OP, moan all you want.. its funny smile We all hit the same idiots (probably quite literally or at least want to) daily.