Concrete central reservation, what's it cost a mile ?
Discussion
Travelling along the M5 Southbound today, the conversion from armco to concrete central reservation is in full flow (having started in March and scheduled to finish in Sept)
I know a lady was tragically killed on the N/Bound section between 3 & 4 two or three years ago when a lorry crossed the central reservation.
The powers that be used to trot out that a death on the roads cost the taxpayer a million pounds.
What does it cost to remove a mile of the existing armco barrier and replace it with concrete ?
I know a lady was tragically killed on the N/Bound section between 3 & 4 two or three years ago when a lorry crossed the central reservation.
The powers that be used to trot out that a death on the roads cost the taxpayer a million pounds.
What does it cost to remove a mile of the existing armco barrier and replace it with concrete ?
Bear in mind that there will be no ongoing cost in closing lanes to cut the grass in the central reservation. There will be far reduced cost in replacing tired barriers. There is likely to be little cost (if any) in replacing crash damaged armco (some areas demand replacement of grounded armco within 24hrs). There will be far fewer incidents of vehicles crossing to the opposite carriageway. The slightly higher concrete barriers make it harder to rubberneck.
I think long term the costs benefits are there, and any shortfall is covered by the improvement in road safety.
My only gripe is the length of the stretches they're doing at a time. The patch in South Yorkshire is 20 miles long at SPECS 50mph!
I think long term the costs benefits are there, and any shortfall is covered by the improvement in road safety.
My only gripe is the length of the stretches they're doing at a time. The patch in South Yorkshire is 20 miles long at SPECS 50mph!
tenpenceshort said:
Bear in mind that there will be no ongoing cost in closing lanes to cut the grass in the central reservation. There will be far reduced cost in replacing tired barriers. There is likely to be little cost (if any) in replacing crash damaged armco (some areas demand replacement of grounded armco within 24hrs). There will be far fewer incidents of vehicles crossing to the opposite carriageway. The slightly higher concrete barriers make it harder to rubberneck.
I think long term the costs benefits are there, and any shortfall is covered by the improvement in road safety.
My only gripe is the length of the stretches they're doing at a time. The patch in South Yorkshire is 20 miles long at SPECS 50mph!
I thought after it snowed that time in Surrey that concrete barriers were a major cause of delays in getting people home..... you can't cross them.I think long term the costs benefits are there, and any shortfall is covered by the improvement in road safety.
My only gripe is the length of the stretches they're doing at a time. The patch in South Yorkshire is 20 miles long at SPECS 50mph!
But they seem to roll them out nationally anyway. I assume complete lack of access between carriageways is outweighed by something, just not sure what.
tenpenceshort said:
My only gripe is the length of the stretches they're doing at a time. The patch in South Yorkshire is 20 miles long at SPECS 50mph!
Yes, that stretch is a right pain!I'd like to know what they plan to do with the purple pipe that on top if it and how many months more it will take to do it?
skeggysteve said:
tenpenceshort said:
My only gripe is the length of the stretches they're doing at a time. The patch in South Yorkshire is 20 miles long at SPECS 50mph!
Yes, that stretch is a right pain!I'd like to know what they plan to do with the purple pipe that on top if it and how many months more it will take to do it?
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