GAP INSURANCE
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barrieeld

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529 posts

245 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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OK folks help me with this one.

I bidded on a friends "junior super car" who doesn't need it anymore, but he said he's better writing it off as he had GAP Insurance, now i was a bit shocked but is this actually true?

I mean could someone say buy a 12c or R8 or similar for say 80k drive it for 3 years care free then "dispose" of the said vehicle expecting the insurance co to foot the bill? Seems like an easy out for hugely depreciating vehicle owners?

I always assumed GAP insured the difference between "current market value" and insurance estimation of current value and not purchase price?

Whats stopping people just going even further forging purchase invoices etc?

Was a bit flabbergasted with this TBH

HumbleJim

28,977 posts

212 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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barrieeld said:
OK folks help me with this one.

I bidded on a friends "junior super car" who doesn't need it anymore, but he said he's better writing it off as he had GAP Insurance, now i was a bit shocked but is this actually true?

I mean could someone say buy a 12c or R8 or similar for say 80k drive it for 3 years care free then "dispose" of the said vehicle expecting the insurance co to foot the bill? Seems like an easy out for hugely depreciating vehicle owners?

I always assumed GAP insured the difference between "current market value" and insurance estimation of current value and not purchase price?

Whats stopping people just going even further forging purchase invoices etc?

Was a bit flabbergasted with this TBH
Gap can be return to invoice, Insurance fraud is rife and quite illegal.

barrieeld

Original Poster:

529 posts

245 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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HumbleJim said:
Gap can be return to invoice, Insurance fraud is rife and quite illegal.
Didn't want to come across like I was probing I was just lost for words that a setup such as GAP would allow this to happen…i always assumed it was an accompaniment to a "lease" vehicle.

valiant

14,166 posts

189 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Apart from the obvious fraud then yes it is possible.

If you have RTI (return to invoice) GAP then you get back the difference between the insurance payout and the invoice price. Some policies will even pay out the current retail price.

Pays your money and you take your choice smile




HumbleJim

28,977 posts

212 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Worth considering it's actually 2x ins frauds. GAP will only payout if you've had a payout from your normal car ins (@ current market value)
A crime number will be required from the police if the car has been stolen.

So 2x Insurance fraud + a police investigation for theft arson etc. Not a casual thing to enter into.

Edited by HumbleJim on Monday 7th July 19:30

barrieeld

Original Poster:

529 posts

245 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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…talk about insurance companies opening themselves up….and they complain that fraud is on the rise no bloody wonder.

Have a 0% depreciating car…just proper bring it and gets your money back….Thanks!

David87

7,021 posts

241 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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If you had a criminally-minded mate you could get him to 'nick' it and you'd then have one each. biggrin

I have GAP insurance on my Qashqai because it's leased, but there's no denying it's a very good thing no matter how you fund the car.

V8LM

5,559 posts

238 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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I don't get GAP insurance? Isn't it paying extra 'cause you bought a cheap, insufficient insurance first time?

surveyor

18,690 posts

213 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Illegal pure and simple. I no longer wanted the liability of car that I had gap on some years ago.

I prayed someone would write it off, but it never happened. Found my own affordable way in the end....

eldar

25,273 posts

225 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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V8LM said:
I don't get GAP insurance? Isn't it paying extra 'cause you bought a cheap, insufficient insurance first time?
No. Suppose you buy a car on 3 year finance. Year two it gets stolen and not recovered. Insurance duly pay out, which is less than the outstanding finance. GAP covers the insurance settlement vs finance balance - covers the gap, as it where.

That said, I bought a new car 18 months ago. The sales rep recommended GAP at around £500, a quick query here had far better cover (return to invoice for 5 years) for less than £200. Seemed too good to be true, but apparently not.


Slidingpillar

761 posts

165 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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GAP insurance is/was designed for folk who have bought the car on finance and in a total loss situation, the paying out of the market value by the insurance could be less than the amount still owing under the finance deal.

Quite a lot of insurance companies will replace a car bought new under a year old, and a few (NFU Mutual is one) will replace up to two years. This should be factored in to any need for a policy.

Hugely profitable for dealers, and if you need it, buy the right policy (what's on offer varies a bit) from the internet at perhaps a third of the price.

V8LM

5,559 posts

238 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Thanks both.

surveyor

18,690 posts

213 months

Monday 7th July 2014
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Slidingpillar said:
GAP insurance is/was designed for folk who have bought the car on finance and in a total loss situation, the paying out of the market value by the insurance could be less than the amount still owing under the finance deal.

Quite a lot of insurance companies will replace a car bought new under a year old, and a few (NFU Mutual is one) will replace up to two years. This should be factored in to any need for a policy.

Hugely profitable for dealers, and if you need it, buy the right policy (what's on offer varies a bit) from the internet at perhaps a third of the price.
Some gap policies can be bought that defer the start by one year to allow for the above.

barrieeld

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529 posts

245 months

Tuesday 8th July 2014
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I agree with the above re: it was designed for lease cars etc but for some serious high performance stuff it just seems too tempting for the average joe...

Prob with a brief google search it will massive for organisied crime cartels to export vehicles on the cheap and individuals can happily claim full value.

I get the concept I just don't get it when it funds the gap on a retail purchase considering depreciation is around 50% for most of these cars in 3 years wtf?