What Car {{Sorry}} for the Alps
What Car {{Sorry}} for the Alps
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NorthDave

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2,538 posts

261 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Hi All

I'm in the market for a new car which will mainly be used in the Alps during winter. Ideally no more than about £10k. Wish list is:

- Very Comfy (for the 900 mile commute back and forth)
- Four wheel drive for the snow
- Possibly high up for ground clearance.

I've considered:

- Land Rover Defender (Cool but reliability worries me and the commute would be slow).
- Audi A6 Allroad
- Volvo XC70

I'm not too fussed about economy. I've never had a 4x4 so this could be a good excuse.

So - what have I missed? Nothing is jumping out at me at the moment.

Griffithy

929 posts

305 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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NorthDave said:
Hi All

I'm in the market for a new car which will mainly be used in the Alps during winter. Ideally no more than about £10k. Wish list is:

- Very Comfy (for the 900 mile commute back and forth)
- Four wheel drive for the snow
- Possibly high up for ground clearance.

I've considered:

- Land Rover Defender (Cool but reliability worries me and the commute would be slow).
- Audi A6 Allroad
- Volvo XC70

I'm not too fussed about economy. I've never had a 4x4 so this could be a good excuse.

So - what have I missed? Nothing is jumping out at me at the moment.
Land Rover Defender would be cool and is quite reliable and perfect for the alps in winter but one thing it is not: Very Comfy.
900 mile commute is quite a task in it.

I would go for a Mercedes 4matic: reliable and most comfortable.
The Mercedes R-class is phantastic.
When you get one with the airmatic suspension you can even set the
suspension to fit the road condition perfectly on the button and you
can also lift it.
900 mile commute is a joke in the R, as you would not want to get
out of it any more.

Let me know if you need to know more.

unpc

2,998 posts

242 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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NorthDave

Original Poster:

2,538 posts

261 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Griffithy said:
Land Rover Defender would be cool and is quite reliable and perfect for the alps in winter but one thing it is not: Very Comfy.
900 mile commute is quite a task in it.

I would go for a Mercedes 4matic: reliable and most comfortable.
The Mercedes R-class is phantastic.
When you get one with the airmatic suspension you can even set the
suspension to fit the road condition perfectly on the button and you
can also lift it.
900 mile commute is a joke in the R, as you would not want to get
out of it any more.

Let me know if you need to know more.
I'm shocked that these are in budget! Just taking a look at the classifieds now.

Are thet all 4 wheel drive? None of the ones in Classifieds seem to mention it?

Asterix

24,438 posts

257 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Have you considered a Jeep Grand Cherokee?

They're quite wafty with lovely comfy seats - off-road is a given. I know my old one was built in Austria, was far better put together than the US ones and I never had any issues with it - I'd get another.

Edited by Asterix on Sunday 13th July 10:06

g3org3y

22,462 posts

220 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Are 10k FFRRs a money pit?

Griffithy

929 posts

305 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Dave,
most Rs have the 4matic, especially the older ones.
Later they brought also cheaper non 4matic versions.
I would also recommend the longer L version,
as its about 25cm longer.

Depthhoar

690 posts

157 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Subaru Legacy Spec B. Inconspicuous sleeper, too. 3 litres of flat six yumminess!

Ticks most of your boxes (though maybe not the ground clearance one).

Fancy an auto estate version?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/s...

....or a manual saloon, perhaps, with a minor mod to the exhaust? Low mileage and well within budget!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/s...

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Consider a LHD 4x4 Car? More choice in Europe.

billzeebub

3,911 posts

228 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Subaru Legacy/Forester with winter tyres

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Leave it at the airport and fly home. Sorted! ;-)

ChocolateFrog

34,954 posts

202 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Depthhoar said:
Subaru Legacy Spec B. Inconspicuous sleeper, too. 3 litres of flat six yumminess!

Ticks most of your boxes (though maybe not the ground clearance one).

Fancy an auto estate version?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/s...

....or a manual saloon, perhaps, with a minor mod to the exhaust? Low mileage and well within budget!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/s...
That's where my money would go. Winter tyres and you're away.

NorthDave

Original Poster:

2,538 posts

261 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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They are pretty cool! I think that is what the chap who did a renovation in Chamonix bought? I had a wrx which I liked. Will take a look at the classifieds.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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billzeebub said:
Subaru Legacy/Forester with winter tyres
Definitely this. Especially a Spec B or 3 litre Outback.

veevee

1,458 posts

180 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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NorthDave said:
Hi All

I'm in the market for a new car which will mainly be used in the Alps during winter. Ideally no more than about £10k. Wish list is:

- Very Comfy (for the 900 mile commute back and forth)
- Four wheel drive for the snow
- Possibly high up for ground clearance.

I've considered:

- Land Rover Defender (Cool but reliability worries me and the commute would be slow).
- Audi A6 Allroad
- Volvo XC70

I'm not too fussed about economy. I've never had a 4x4 so this could be a good excuse.

So - what have I missed? Nothing is jumping out at me at the moment.
Have spent a few winters out there.

Subaru Outback is the best answer, IMO. Wouldn't bother with a Defender, look cool but not much fun on the motorway.

Skoda Octavia 4x4 is good too. 10k might also get you into an A4 Allroad?

veevee

1,458 posts

180 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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FFRR and anything else that big are pretty crap up in the Alps. No joke when you understeer 3 tons on a sharp icy corner.

4130chris

42 posts

205 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Hey up...

Can't remember why you didn't fancy a RangieRover or Discovery?

Nicer for the long drive home...

Snowboy

8,028 posts

180 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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I've lived in a few winter resorts.
I can offer a generic answer.

4wd or awd makes a big difference.
But the BIGGEST difference is decent snow tyres.
Not just all seasons, but proper heavily siped snow tyres.
Do some research - buy good tyres.

Assuming you are skiing or snowboarding you'll want a van or estate style of car to put the boards and skis in the boot. Roofboxes are a pain in the arse.

You're also going to be filling the interior with snow and ice. So get some decent rubber floor mats and maybe some seat covers if you care about the cars condition.

Something with electric heated windscreen to clear ice is very useful.

Cold weather kills car batteries.
The less charge in the battery the easier they die. Consider buying a brand new heavy duty battery at the start of the season.

Do not turn on internal fans without clearing the air ducts outside.

Good ground clearance is usefull for getting over snowplough berms.



Robert Elise

958 posts

174 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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don't see many Mercs in the alps, i wonder whether the tyres are too wide? (obviously you could put more narrow winters on). Or maybe people who ski prefer Audi?BMW for their preferred German barge?
Suburu is the smart choice.
RR, Allroads and Volvos aren't noted for reliability either.
Nearly all crossovers on good tyres are good for the alps - extra clearance more useful than proper off-road ability.
Useful features in the mountains are keyless entry and auto. hands free for other faffing when cold and over-dressed.

Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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billzeebub said:
Subaru Legacy/Forester with winter tyres
All day, every day.