RE: Ford confirms Mustang spec
RE: Ford confirms Mustang spec
Friday 18th July 2014

Ford confirms Mustang spec

The Ecoboost is at 310hp, the V8 is 435 and there's a performance pack on the way too



American manufacturers do love stat or two, don't they? According to Ford's latest on the next Mustang, the Ecoboost version will have 'the best power-to-weight ratio of any car available in the US for under $50,000'. It carries 11.4 pounds (3,524 in total or 1,598kg) for each of its horsepower, or 194hp per tonne. As for specific output, the 2.3-litre turbo makes 135hp and 139lb ft per litre.

V8 performance pack faster than a Boss 302
V8 performance pack faster than a Boss 302
The V8 Mustang GT takes that down to 8.5 pounds per hp with 435hp and 400lb ft. Phew. And that's about it on the numbers for now.

The Ecoboost and V8 the two engines available in the UK which, fortunately enough, are the engines Ford seems most keen to publicise. The four-cylinder 'mill' uses a twin-scroll turbo and a cylinderhead with an integrated exhaust manifold that separates the pairs of cylinders. Ford claims that keeping the exhaust pulses separated from the next cylinder in the firing order 'virtually eliminates mixing losses' and gives a response similar to a twin-turbo set up. The Ecoboost's crank and conrods are also forged.

But everyone wants to know about the V8 really. Using the old Boss 302 as a basis, Ford has focused (no pun intended) on improving engine breathing so there's a whole host of changes despite the same 5.0-litre capacity. Intake and exhaust valves are larger, the cams are new, the valve springs are stiffer and the head has been recast. That's on top (literally) of a rebalanced forged crank 'to support higher-rpm operation'.

Mustang caters for bros who drive stick
Mustang caters for bros who drive stick
'More than most drivers, Mustang owners like to take control and shift for themselves'. Is that a little dig from Ford to drivers of two-pedal rivals? Anyway, the new car will be offered a stick or a 'SelectShift' six-speed auto. The linkage has been tweaked in the manual for a more precise shift and the lever itself has been moved away from the cappuccino holders.

We probably need to discuss numbers again, right? The fastback boasts 28 per cent greater torsional stiffness than the old car (the convertible is 15 per cent) which has contributed, says Ford, to 'world-class performance in both dynamics and ride quality'. The best weight distribution ever achieved for a Mustang (52:48 for the Ecoboost) will also help.

But a performance pack will also be offered to further improve, er, performance on the four-cylinder and V8 models. Again the Boss 302 was used as a benchmark. Packs for both cars get new springs and rear dampers, 'additional cooling capability', a strengthening brace, a thicker rear anti-roll bar and unique settings for the ABS, ESC and electric steering.

So when can we drive it?
So when can we drive it?
In the Ecoboost, brakes are upgraded to 352mm front discs with four-piston calipers (from 320mm with two-pots) at the front with 330mm rotors (10mm larger) behind.

The V8 PP has reputedly proved faster in track testing than the Boss 302. Its upgrades include a Torsen diff, Brembo six-piston calipers for 380mm front brakes and a new splitter to help cool them.

The only numbers we don't see to have for the Mustang yet are prices. Given the lengths Ford has apparently gone to in creating the Performance Packs for both models, we would like to think they would be offered in the UK. Here's hoping. More as it's available.

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TomQ2711

Original Poster:

30 posts

150 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Going to be seriously tempted by one of these after my deal runs out on my Focus ST-3. Just depends on the £££

Cotic

469 posts

181 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Me too. Very intrigued by the four-pot; if it 'sounds' right!

cerb4.5lee

44,558 posts

209 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Would love a V8 one of these for sure.

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

176 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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i want one. a V8 one. now!

thatguy11

658 posts

152 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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A 4cyl Mustang....blasphemy!

davidcharles

400 posts

223 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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cerb4.5lee said:
Would love a V8 one of these for sure.
so will the taxman!!!

kambites

71,469 posts

250 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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I don't care if there have been four-pot Mustangs before, there is definitely something wrong with having a turbocharged inline four in it.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Seams odd not to have some sort of 6 in the middle of the range!

cerb4.5lee

44,558 posts

209 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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davidcharles said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Would love a V8 one of these for sure.
so will the taxman!!!
True!

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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thatguy11 said:
A 4cyl Mustang....blasphemy!
Maybe so, but not a new blasphemy...

kambites

71,469 posts

250 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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MonkeyMatt said:
Seams odd not to have some sort of 6 in the middle of the range!
I believe they do in the states, it's just not being released here.

thatguy11

658 posts

152 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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doogz said:
thatguy11 said:
A 4cyl Mustang....blasphemy!
Didn't the very first Mustang ever built have the V4 engine found in the old Transit van?
Nah it was an I6 I think

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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kambites said:
MonkeyMatt said:
Seams odd not to have some sort of 6 in the middle of the range!
I believe they do in the states, it's just not being released here.
yes

I reckon they think in the UK they'll sell the 4-cyl relatively well, the V8 to the enthusiasts and the 6-cyl would fall down the gap between the two.

SturdyHSV

10,443 posts

196 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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MonkeyMatt said:
Seams odd not to have some sort of 6 in the middle of the range!
They do in the US, but it's actually the bottom of the range, despite being a 3.7 (I think)

The ecoboost makes more power/torque and uses less fuel, so presumably they didn't see the point of it over here.

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

176 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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SturdyHSV said:
They do in the US, but it's actually the bottom of the range, despite being a 3.7 (I think)

The ecoboost makes more power/torque and uses less fuel, so presumably they didn't see the point of it over here.
thats right, the V6 is entry level and makes much less power than the '4 banger' as they call it.
i will be interested to drive the ecoboost, it has more power than the V8 i drive now, i just wonder how linear they get the power output.

kambites

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250 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Prawnboy said:
thats right, the V6 is entry level and makes much less power than the '4 banger' as they call it.
"Much" less? What are the figures then, I thought they were going to be fairly close.

I can't imagine the V6 will sell very well, even in the states, unless it's vastly cleaper.

timothymcn

26 posts

173 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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thatguy11 said:
A 4cyl Mustang....blasphemy!
Enh - I think generally we get too caught up in what is or isn't "blasphemy" for certain models or brands. Pretty sure the most popular version of early Mustangs were the Inline 6s. Fast forward to the 80s, and in my mind the coolest one was the turbocharged I4 in the SVO Fox Body. I welcome this new "SVO," and I'm a Yank. What's wrong with more variety in the lineup? I actually think the V6 option we get here in the States is the least interesting.

ManiacGT

537 posts

204 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Is the 5.0 NA? If so, there's less scope for modification presumably (other than spending a fortune on turbos or supercharger kits). 310 from the 2.5 sounds good and given its a turbo could easily be sorted to run higher (with associated risk).

I'd still like the 5.0 tho lol

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

176 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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kambites said:
"Much" less? What are the figures then, I thought they were going to be fairly close.
5 horsies, count 'em five. not one or even 2 but 5 of 'em.


i may have been a bit previous with the 'much'

morgs_

1,679 posts

216 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Prawnboy said:
kambites said:
"Much" less? What are the figures then, I thought they were going to be fairly close.
5 horsies, count 'em five. not one or even 2 but 5 of 'em.


i may have been a bit previous with the 'much'
Horses aren't everything here, torque should be much better with the EcoBoost and be more usable than the V6. There is of course the running costs, but all of PH being powerfully built company directors, they will all be buying the V8 anyway wink

Which, to answer an earlier question, will be N/A.