Write off jag with plate change
Write off jag with plate change
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Youmitegetian

Original Poster:

26 posts

146 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Hi all I'm a newbie from evesham Worcestershire
I'm looking at buying a 1997 xj6 jaguar,
I've done a hip check and it shows it was a write off in 2005,
The car is on private plates and has been since 2010 when the current owner bought it
And put his plates on
Is the recorded write off for this vehicle or the vehicle the plates were on in 2005?
Also is there a way to find out how bad the damage was?
It's a cat c and has had a VIC test 10 months after it was written off
Normally I'd just walk away but it's quite cheap and in very good condition, £750 with full mot and 115 k miles
Any advice would be greatly appreciated


Edited by Youmitegetian on Sunday 20th July 09:59

InitialDave

15,086 posts

148 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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At that price, I'd buy on condition, and to hell with whether it was once written off. If it's solid and not showing any evidence of bodged repairs, I wouldn't worry about it.

DervVW

2,223 posts

168 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Surely its just cat C so written off but then retested to road worthy again?
The plate is just the same as any car having a private plate?


Buff Mchugelarge

3,316 posts

179 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Yup, I wouldn't worry too much about it, It would not have taken much to cat c it even 10 years ago.
The fact it's still here means its unlikely to be crabbing down the road.

Qwert1e

545 posts

147 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Have you seen a V5 with,
  • Correct owner's name?
  • Correct owner's address?
  • Correct VIN number?
  • Correct registration number?
If so, then just buy on condition.

Just because it's cheap to buy doesn't mean it will be cheap to run.


Youmitegetian

Original Poster:

26 posts

146 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Qwert1e said:
Have you seen a V5 with,
  • Correct owner's name?
  • Correct owner's address?
  • Correct VIN number?
  • Correct registration number?
If so, then just buy on condition.

Just because it's cheap to buy doesn't mean it will be cheap to run.
Yes seen all the paperwork, I don't think the guy knows it was a write off as he seems very honest (I know he could just be blagging it but don't think so) it would explain why an 18 year old jag has no rust and is in good condition

HaloGen8

1,413 posts

158 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Qwert1e said:
Have you seen a V5 with,
  • Correct owner's name?
  • Correct owner's address?
  • Correct VIN number?
  • Correct registration number?
If so, then just buy on condition.

Just because it's cheap to buy doesn't mean it will be cheap to run.
Good post and wraps it up really - at £750 it's not huge sums of money and assuming it all looks and runs ok you could buy a 'normal' car for more but end up paying far more in keeping it on the road.

If its straight and clean and has been loved - buy and enjoy.

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

239 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Cat C means it was an economic write off but not necessarily smashed into very small bits.

Given it was 8 years old when it was categorised and the cost of replacement bumpers - the rear one on a X300 was over £1k and became a prime target for thieves in the late 90s because of this - and panels it may have had little more than a rear end shunt or side swipe.

Providing its got consistent panel gaps and the paint is good and you can't actually see the repairs then for £750 then why not?

The X300 is mechanically pretty bombproof so no worries there and capable of mega mileage, the only things I'd be concerned about is the state of brakes and suspension and tyres and any signs of floor pan or sill rust.

Biggest clue is the condition of the tyres. Any geometry inaccuracy either from poor accident repairs or bush/ball joint weakness will cause uneven tread wear. If they are ok and the car drives and stops in a straight line without judder that'll indicate the brakes are ok too.

Nothing quite like an old XJ for wafty pleasure IMO. Sure it'll like a drink but they are simple and easy to fix and parts are cheap through a huge network of after market suppliers and breakers.

The bottom line is you can score around £250 for scrap if it all goes horribly bad on you.

Escy

4,129 posts

178 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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I wouldn't have even wasted the money on a HPI check on a £750 car. Being cat C makes no difference to the value (as it's worth FA anyway)

Heaveho

7,452 posts

203 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Make sure the box feels ok........not Jags finest hour, they didn't specify frequent enough maintenance schedule on those if I'm remembering it right. If the car feels and looks ok generally, it's cheap enough.

Edited to add, have the rules changed in recent years about plate changes on salvaged cars, I didn't think that was allowed now?

The Moose

23,677 posts

238 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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If you're really worried, post up the full HPI check results and someone will decode it for you...

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

239 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Heaveho said:
Make sure the box feels ok........not Jags finest hour, they didn't specify frequent enough maintenance schedule on those if I'm remembering it right. If the car feels and looks ok generally, it's cheap enough.

Edited to add, have the rules changed in recent years about plate changes on salvaged cars, I didn't think that was allowed now?
You're thinking of the sealed for life ZF 5 speed 'box on the subsequent V8 XJ and K models. The ZF 4 speed auto fitted to the last of the 6 cyl cars the OP is considering is agricultural to say the least but almost completely indestructible.

imagineifyeswill

1,250 posts

195 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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If it was that car that was written off, even with a plate change there will still be a little note on the V5 too that effect, I think its at the bottom of the front page, cant quite remember what it says but obvious what it means.

ScottJB

338 posts

172 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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The full £20 HPI check will tell you whether its against the plate or the car if the V5 isnt marked.

Although as others have already said, at that value i'd buy based on other factors.

Heaveho

7,452 posts

203 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Jaguar steve said:
You're thinking of the sealed for life ZF 5 speed 'box on the subsequent V8 XJ and K models. The ZF 4 speed auto fitted to the last of the 6 cyl cars the OP is considering is agricultural to say the least but almost completely indestructible.
Thanks, memory is a bit hazy from that period of my life, been a while since I had much to do with them!

Qwert1e

545 posts

147 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Heaveho said:
memory is a bit hazy!
Welcome to the club..... smile

Youmitegetian

Original Poster:

26 posts

146 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Thanks for the replies it's been very helpful, only problem now is the chap is unsure that he wants to sell it, waiting and see I guess but I'll have it if he does choose to sell it

Gooly

977 posts

177 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Ring them up. I had this, a £500 328 which came up as written off. Turns out it was on a private plate which had been written off by the previous car it was on, a porsche 928 GTS ( frown ) and the 328 had a clean title. If you ring up whoever did the check they can tell you exactly what has happened.