Why the hate for different?
Why the hate for different?
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McWigglebum4th

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32,414 posts

233 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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A fwd car that is designed purely to look a bit different from the rest of the drab crap on the roads and is utterly hated by PH



A fwd car that is designed purely to look a bit different from the rest of the drab crap on the roads and is utterly hated by PH



A fwd car that is designed purely to look a bit different from the rest of the drab crap on the roads and is utterly hated by PH



A fwd car that is designed purely to look a bit different from the rest of the drab crap on the roads and is utterly hated by PH



So why is there so much hate for cars that are designed purely to be different?

R6VED

1,491 posts

169 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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The rather obvious reason and common theme of all those pictures is:

They look fking ste.

manmaths

476 posts

169 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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There's looking good different and looking bad different.

PT Cruiser: bad different (IMO)
New Beetle: good different (IMO)

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Don't think the latter two are hated, interesting designs. The new bug is a poor pastiche of a brilliant original design. The PT Cruiser is just fking horrendous.

Martin_Hx

4,028 posts

227 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I like the cube!

kambites

71,470 posts

250 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Stylistically, I've never been a fan of the whole "retro-modern" thing which manufacturers currently seem to love but to my eye none of the cars posted above look at worse than the MINI or Fiat 500 which people seem to love.

The Cube is a lovely looking little thing.


At the moment, the styling trend that I hate (or at least dislike) the most is the mainstream tendency for weird compound creases which start and stop at random points.

Edited by kambites on Thursday 24th July 08:23

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
So why is there so much hate for cars that are designed purely to be different?
Because styling is surface, and because they're all dynamically thoroughly indifferent. No "hatred", just the utter indifference I'd give any 25yo automatic Micra, diesel Golf, or generic hatch from Japan or the US. Which, once you get past the personal preference of the styling, is all they are.

DanielSan

20,008 posts

196 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Martin_Hx said:
I like the cube!
Another vote here for the Cube. Though I do like the earlier version more. I think it's a brilliantly simple but great looking design.

Negative Creep

26,064 posts

256 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Drinking a bacon milkshake would be different, doesn't automatically mean it's something that should be done

Mr Taxpayer

438 posts

149 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Sometimes the underlying car is soooo bad that it's only redeeming feature is that it has 'funky' looks. The Beetle is s MkV Golf (never VW's best chassis) with the practicality removed.

The PT Cruiser worked in the US, but came from a period when Chrysler was just about the worst volume manufacturer in the world.

Nowt wrong withthe Nissan Figaro. Harks back to age of stuff like the Sprite and Midget but with distinctly better road manners. Not everyone wants tyre-shredding performance from their ragtop. Look at the new base model Caterham 7.

kambites

71,470 posts

250 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Mr Taxpayer said:
The Beetle is s MkV Golf (never VW's best chassis) with the practicality removed.
I thought the mk5 was Golf was generally viewed as one of VW's best chassis? It was certainly hailed as a significant return to form after the mk3 and mk4.

Blib

48,078 posts

226 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I like the last two. Especially the Cube. Any car which has two completely different sides is good in my book. (Except that mini thing with the offside suicide door. That's horrid).

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

214 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I never really had a problem with the previous version of the 'new' Beetle but there's just something about the new type that grates - I can't put a finger on it really.

I'm not a fan of the PT Cruiser as it just seemed only to exist for people in the UK who wanted "an American car" - but as none of the American stuff really gets imported here, we ended up with that. Cue a bit of stick on chrome, an American license plate in the window.. I mean it's American in name, but nothing else. If it's any consolation, they seem to be loathed in the USA too, so it's not just PistonHeads that dislike them.

The Cube I think is pretty cool in an "out there" kind of way.. the Figaro I have no problem with, other than I wouldn't want to drive / own one myself smile

skyrover

12,700 posts

233 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Brits have a horrendous fear of standing out from the crowd IMO

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

215 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I can't say I hate them, but they mostly look like they are trying too hard to be quirky.

Like fashion victims that take it a bit too far and end up dressing like clowns.

And as someone above said, they are a quirky exterior on deeply conventional underpinnings, so the body is writing cheques the chassis can't bank.

If I was feeling quirky, I'd rather have something like the new Twingo, which is fairly conventional looking, but rear engined/RWD, just for the hell of it. Or a Panda 4 x 4 on a similar basis.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Just old fashioned bigotry,
'We' don't like 'them'

Bill

58,644 posts

284 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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kambites said:
Mr Taxpayer said:
The Beetle is s MkV Golf (never VW's best chassis) with the practicality removed.
I thought the mk5 was Golf was generally viewed as one of VW's best chassis? It was certainly hailed as a significant return to form after the mk3 and mk4.
The Beetle was a MkIV Golf, but without the practicality, so without redeeming features. The Chrysler is crap in almost every way.

The Cube and Figaro are good, I would have got a Cube for SWMBO if she liked it.

The MINI is at least ok to drive (I didn't like the interior, a bit too pastiche imo), likewise the Panda and 500.

McSatan

82 posts

146 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I saw a nice PT Cruiser once, it had been lowered/wide arches/big wheels, the roof chopped a bit and a lairy paint job with flames, it looked like a pukka hot-rod. Don't know what the engine was, but it sounded nice,

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Leave the Cube alone, they look great cool

Mercury00

4,250 posts

185 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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I love the Cube and Figaro. The Beetle just looks like a dog dragging its arse along the floor. I have no words for the PT Cruiser...