Final rwd Ford saloon.
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Kawasicki

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14,367 posts

264 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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This is probably the final rear wheel drive Ford saloon (with internal combustion at any rate). The final member of a family that includes such greats as the Lotus Cortina, Escort Mexico, Sierra Cosworth.

Supercharged 5l V8, with 450bhp.

Multi-link suspension, lower and narrower than a Mondeo.


Coatesy351

889 posts

161 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Wahhh. At least were getting the mustang so you can still buy a rwd ford, but it wont be the same..cry

Simes110

768 posts

180 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Such a shame.

One of the best Ford models ever made. I reckon it could have done so well in the UK.


optimal909

198 posts

173 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Coatesy351 said:
Wahhh. At least were getting the mustang so you can still buy a rwd ford, but it wont be the same..cry
Ford should leverage the rwd platform it developed for the Mustang - why not make a global Falcon? The Mondeo will demise anyway just like the Scorpio did, a stylish 4-door on the other hand could be a success.

s m

24,472 posts

232 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Kawasicki said:
This is probably the final rear wheel drive Ford saloon (with internal combustion at any rate). The final member of a family that includes such greats as the Lotus Cortina, Escort Mexico, Sierra Cosworth.

Supercharged 5l V8, with 450bhp.

Multi-link suspension, lower and narrower than a Mondeo.

Have you driven one on a work-related basis?

MC Bodge

29,656 posts

204 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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optimal909 said:
The Mondeo will demise anyway just like the Scorpio did
Why? Too big? not prestigious enough? Focus growing to take over lien the Mondeo did, with a micro-Ka introduced?

My Mk4 is good, but wide. I wouldn't want it any wider and preferably a bit narrower to make it easier to open the doors in car parks a d to squeeze down the back roads.

Triumph Man

9,586 posts

197 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Kawasicki said:
This is probably the final rear wheel drive Ford saloon (with internal combustion at any rate). The final member of a family that includes such greats as the Lotus Cortina, Escort Mexico, Sierra Cosworth.

Supercharged 5l V8, with 450bhp.

Multi-link suspension, lower and narrower than a Mondeo.

I would love one.

ben5732

763 posts

185 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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I'd have one in a heartbeat.

AngryPartsBloke

1,439 posts

180 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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I don't know why Ford never got involved with getting over FPV and Aus Ford models like Vauxhall did with Holden and HSV. Especially after Ford took over all the FPV assets from Prodrive. While the Monaro and VXR8 didn't sell in hughe numbers, they did sell and as toolds for Brand bulding worked out quite well.


Kawasicki

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Friday 25th July 2014
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s m said:
Have you driven one on a work-related basis?
Similar - grey car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRNxnlNbEO8


Edited by Kawasicki on Friday 25th July 12:26

optimal909

198 posts

173 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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MC Bodge said:
Why? Too big? not prestigious enough? Focus growing to take over lien the Mondeo did, with a micro-Ka introduced?
Perhaps all these combined. What can be seen, is that CD segment is shrinking in a same way as DE segment did - Scorpio, Safrane, Omega and the likes couldn't keep up with the premium brands...

One could even argue, that the current Mondeo is rather a 5-series in terms of size, but in any case, the 3-series is vastly outselling all mainstream competitors, even the Passat. Non-premium volumes are melting away, and according to Autonews Honda and Toyota are already contemplating about pulling out of the segment.

Kawasicki

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264 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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optimal909 said:
Perhaps all these combined. What can be seen, is that CD segment is shrinking in a same way as DE segment did - Scorpio, Safrane, Omega and the likes couldn't keep up with the premium brands...

One could even argue, that the current Mondeo is rather a 5-series in terms of size, but in any case, the 3-series is vastly outselling all mainstream competitors, even the Passat. Non-premium volumes are melting away, and according to Autonews Honda and Toyota are already contemplating about pulling out of the segment.
Yep. In the US some manufacturers are contemplating getting out the large saloon market altogether, volumes have plummeted. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but SUVs just aren't my thing.

optimal909

198 posts

173 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Kawasicki said:
Yep. In the US some manufacturers are contemplating getting out the large saloon market altogether, volumes have plummeted. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but SUVs just aren't my thing.
I still think, that a 4-door saloon with a twist could be still hot - Tesla Model S got successful not only because of its green credentials me thinks.

The problem with Ford is, that it became too cautious and lost the 'twinkle in the eye' it had before.

Fastdruid

9,379 posts

181 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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MC Bodge said:
My Mk4 is good, but wide. I wouldn't want it any wider and preferably a bit narrower to make it easier to open the doors in car parks a d to squeeze down the back roads.
Too tall also. I have about a foot of headroom!

MC Bodge

29,656 posts

204 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Fastdruid said:
Too tall also. I have about a foot of headroom!
Are you a midget? I am only a long ish bodied 6' and I like the fact that there is good headroom, rather than too little, as in many cars.

I don't often wear my
Top hat these days

Fastdruid

9,379 posts

181 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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MC Bodge said:
Fastdruid said:
Too tall also. I have about a foot of headroom!
Are you a midget? I am only a long ish bodied 6' and I like the fact that there is good headroom, rather than too little, as in many cars.

I don't often wear my
Top hat these days
I'm exaggerating but only slightly, I've just measured it. 7in and I'm average height. I could easily wear my top hat.

Edited by Fastdruid on Friday 25th July 13:40

MC Bodge

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204 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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BMW have nailed the emissions test passing game and have a desirable badge.

Although, if almost Everybody has a BMW or Audi, aren't they just everyman cars like Ford were?

Big saloons are too big for most and SUVs are more desirable to many.

MC Bodge

29,656 posts

204 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Fastdruid said:
I'm exaggerating but only slightly, I've just measured it. 7in and I'm average height. I could easily wear my top hat.
Ah, you are a croozer with the back rest almost horizontal!

I have my seat back quite steep and enjoy the headroom. The car is arguably too big/wide though.

Fastdruid

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181 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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MC Bodge said:
Fastdruid said:
I'm exaggerating but only slightly, I've just measured it. 7in and I'm average height. I could easily wear my top hat.
Ah, you are a croozer with the back rest almost horizontal!

I have my seat back quite steep and enjoy the headroom. The car is arguably too big/wide though.
Nope, a bit reclined but if I sit firmly back in the seat with arms straight my wrists rest on the top of the wheel which is I've been lead to believe the 'correct' distance from the wheel (and if I moved the seat further back I couldn't reach the pedals! smile )

EDIT: Er just realised, mine is the Estate, it might be a bit higher than the saloon/hatch...

MC Bodge

29,656 posts

204 months

Friday 25th July 2014
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Fastdruid said:
EDIT: Er just realised, mine is the Estate
How long have you had it?!

If you are sat in the front it should be the same height. Mine is an estate too, though