F Type... smashed
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Pablosammy

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9 posts

145 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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Right, I'm not going to go into the circumstances of the accident, but on Saturday I was involved in a collision which caused some decent damage to the side of my two month old F Type, sob! The side airbag deployed, the rear wheel appears bent out of alignment, and there is significant bodywork damage.

I've never been in an accident before, and have never claimed on insurance. I assume this level of damage will be repairable, but I'm not sure of the tricks of the insurance trade. Any clankies notice anything particularly worrying from the pic, and are there any tips regarding dealing with insurance companies? How would jaguar accident management deal with my insurer?

Edited by Pablosammy on Monday 4th August 21:31

young_bairn

714 posts

205 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Ouch. At least you're alright.

Baryonyx

18,281 posts

188 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Try and avoid mentioning to your insurer the part where you lost control and slid into the roadside furniture.

Pablosammy

Original Poster:

9 posts

145 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Cheers mate. It was relatively low speed, so we got minor whiplash, nothing major. The cars just a lump of metal, the two squishy occupants however a a bit more precious :-)

Fittster

20,120 posts

242 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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In your post you forgot to mention the diesel spill that caused the accident, it's always the culprit.

matthias73

2,901 posts

179 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Baryonyx said:
Try and avoid mentioning to your insurer the part where you lost control and slid into the roadside furniture.
Speaking from rather painful experience I take it?

I'm going to guess the OP was drifting around a roundabout, held a lovely slide, the car snapped back a bit suddenly and it ended up spinning, hitting the curb side on, bouncing up onto a grass verge and hitting a bit of armco.

Not that I'm speaking from experience.

Pablosammy

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145 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Fittster said:
In your post you forgot to mention the diesel spill that caused the accident, it's always the culprit.
Haha! I knew people would see straight through something like that wink As mentioned, I'm not here to discuss the events prior to the bump.

s3fella

10,524 posts

216 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Won't that be written off? Looks to have had a goodly wack on the suspension.

Door, sil, rear suspension, wheel, paint etc? 10k gone in a flash?

Depends how much suspension damage there is, but won't be cheap!

rollondeath

317 posts

148 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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s3fella said:
Won't that be written off? Looks to have had a goodly wack on the suspension.

Door, sil, rear suspension, wheel, paint etc? 10k gone in a flash?

Depends how much suspension damage there is, but won't be cheap!
They'll repair that, it's not too bad.

Pablosammy

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9 posts

145 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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s3fella said:
Won't that be written off? Looks to have had a goodly wack on the suspension.

Door, sil, rear suspension, wheel, paint etc? 10k gone in a flash?

Depends how much suspension damage there is, but won't be cheap!
You reckon? The insurer replaces the car if damage is greater than 55% of the value. I make that around £25k...

Baryonyx

18,281 posts

188 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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matthias73 said:
Speaking from rather painful experience I take it?
No, but judging by the pictures of the bent F-Type I can easily imagine some cackhanded oversteer playing a part in it's demise.

BlackGT3

1,446 posts

239 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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I would firstly avoid Accident Management Companies as the claim will spiral out of control and wether it's your fault or not, the total cost of the claim will have an impact when you renew your insurance. Depending on the terms of your insurance policy, you may have to pay an excess to have the car repaired at a workshop of your choice and when you call your insurance company, they may try to insist you to take the car to their approved bodyshop.

If I was in your shoes, I would insist the car needs to go to either a Jaguar approved bodyshop or a bodyshop of your choice. Given the suspension damage, your car will need to have this sorted properly with a full Geo, and may need a new wheel. Jaguar or a quality repairer should ensure this happens. The "approved" bodyshop's are likely to do the minimum. Your insurer may also state that a loan car is not available if you opt for a repairer of your choice.

Pablosammy

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9 posts

145 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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BlackGT3 said:
I would firstly avoid Accident Management Companies as the claim will spiral out of control and wether it's your fault or not, the total cost of the claim will have an impact when you renew your insurance. Depending on the terms of your insurance policy, you may have to pay an excess to have the car repaired at a workshop of your choice and when you call your insurance company, they may try to insist you to take the car to their approved bodyshop.

If I was in your shoes, I would insist the car needs to go to either a Jaguar approved bodyshop or a bodyshop of your choice. Given the suspension damage, your car will need to have this sorted properly with a full Geo, and may need a new wheel. Jaguar or a quality repairer should ensure this happens. The "approved" bodyshop's are likely to do the minimum. Your insurer may also state that a loan car is not available if you opt for a repairer of your choice.
That's the sort of advice I was after, cheers for the help.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

218 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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matthias73 said:
I'm going to guess the OP was drifting around a roundabout, held a lovely slide, the car snapped back a bit suddenly and it ended up spinning, hitting the curb side on, bouncing up onto a grass verge and hitting a bit of armco.
Sounds like all the OP needed was a........

























vinnie83

3,367 posts

222 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Pablosammy said:
BlackGT3 said:
I would firstly avoid Accident Management Companies as the claim will spiral out of control and wether it's your fault or not, the total cost of the claim will have an impact when you renew your insurance. Depending on the terms of your insurance policy, you may have to pay an excess to have the car repaired at a workshop of your choice and when you call your insurance company, they may try to insist you to take the car to their approved bodyshop.

If I was in your shoes, I would insist the car needs to go to either a Jaguar approved bodyshop or a bodyshop of your choice. Given the suspension damage, your car will need to have this sorted properly with a full Geo, and may need a new wheel. Jaguar or a quality repairer should ensure this happens. The "approved" bodyshop's are likely to do the minimum. Your insurer may also state that a loan car is not available if you opt for a repairer of your choice.
That's the sort of advice I was after, cheers for the help.
Do remember that the dealer you choose to send your car to still really wants the business.

When my car was battered in a hailstorm accident, my insurer wanted to send it to their approved repairer. However, the car has full main dealer BMW history so I wanted it repaired at a main dealer.

They insisted I would have to pay my own excess, so I called my local BMW dealer and suggested that, if they pay my excess, I would let them have the ~£7k worth of bodywork job to which they happily agreed.

Insurance company happy, me happy, bodyshop happy!

ETA they threw in a courtesy car too (the BMW dealer) which was far nicer than the one on offer from the insurer.


moffat

1,020 posts

254 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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BlackGT3 said:
I would firstly avoid Accident Management Companies as the claim will spiral out of control and wether it's your fault or not, the total cost of the claim will have an impact when you renew your insurance. Depending on the terms of your insurance policy, you may have to pay an excess to have the car repaired at a workshop of your choice and when you call your insurance company, they may try to insist you to take the car to their approved bodyshop.

If I was in your shoes, I would insist the car needs to go to either a Jaguar approved bodyshop or a bodyshop of your choice. Given the suspension damage, your car will need to have this sorted properly with a full Geo, and may need a new wheel. Jaguar or a quality repairer should ensure this happens. The "approved" bodyshop's are likely to do the minimum. Your insurer may also state that a loan car is not available if you opt for a repairer of your choice.
The OP can insist all he wants, but it is very much dependent on the insurance company that he uses. They WILL dictate where the car is repaired and any accident management company.

For example Direct Line use their own OEM approved workshops but will not necessarily replace with OEM parts. In my experience Mercedes Insurance meant that all OEM parts were used.

I would suggest the OP refers to both the insurer and the insurer's T&C's for clear advice.

So many people buy insurance on price alone, hopefully the OP will have a good ensurer and all will go smoothly.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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s3fella said:
Won't that be written off? Looks to have had a goodly wack on the suspension.

Door, sil, rear suspension, wheel, paint etc? 10k gone in a flash?

Depends how much suspension damage there is, but won't be cheap!
Sill's just a plastic cover, by the look. Is there any front or rear wing damage?
Suspension'll just be bolt-on stuff, unlikely to have tweaked the mountings.

So a bit of unbolt-rebolt, and a door. Maybe just a skin and a bit of panel-beating to the bottom edge. If something like a 2mo F-type's written off for THAT sort of minor damage...

SiH

1,858 posts

276 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Pablosammy said:
As mentioned, I'm not here to discuss the events prior to the bump.
Aww... Come on, don't be a spoilsport! Tell us all the details so that we can throw electronic rotten tomatoes and cast aspersions on your manliness!

Glad to hear that the squashy parts of the equation are all well; tell us which part of the UK you're in and you may find some good recommendations for a local bodyshop. If you're near Crawley then I'd recommend SL Restoration, they're the local MB approved bodyshop and when my wife's car was there (the concrete post just jumped out at her...) they were working on all sorts from a 458, a Bentley Conti, a couple of Cayennes.

eltax91

10,757 posts

235 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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TooMany2cvs said:
s3fella said:
Won't that be written off? Looks to have had a goodly wack on the suspension.

Door, sil, rear suspension, wheel, paint etc? 10k gone in a flash?

Depends how much suspension damage there is, but won't be cheap!
Sill's just a plastic cover, by the look. Is there any front or rear wing damage?
Suspension'll just be bolt-on stuff, unlikely to have tweaked the mountings.

So a bit of unbolt-rebolt, and a door. Maybe just a skin and a bit of panel-beating to the bottom edge. If something like a 2mo F-type's written off for THAT sort of minor damage...
Especially easy given how new and un-rusty the car is! Makes suspension stuff pretty light work I'd have thought.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

276 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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moffat said:
The OP can insist all he wants, but it is very much dependent on the insurance company that he uses. They WILL dictate where the car is repaired and any accident management company.

For example Direct Line use their own OEM approved workshops but will not necessarily replace with OEM parts. In my experience Mercedes Insurance meant that all OEM parts were used.

I would suggest the OP refers to both the insurer and the insurer's T&C's for clear advice.

So many people buy insurance on price alone, hopefully the OP will have a good ensurer and all will go smoothly.
I beleive its your right to specify a repair garage - and Direct Line will let you do this. They may insist otherwise, but you just have to insist on the one you want. I've done this with them and it all went smooth.


Accident management company - used them and were very efficient. But, did get lots of calls later asking me to basically fabricate an injury claim.