Mot incorrect pass
Discussion
Hi all,
Bought a jaguar xj8 with 10 months mot on it, to be fair I didn't check underneath properly (stupid I know) and after getting it home found the floor to be rotten in several places, the biggest hole is big enough to put ur hand through and there are several other small holes,
I checked vosa website and the say they'll listen to complaints about an mot corrosion issue for up to 3 months after it was tested, but they don't chase compensation or cost of repairs for you.
I'm guessing that would be trading standards, any body else had similar experience and can tell me the best cause of action?
I'm thinking go to the garage and ask them to put right the problems they missed at mot, or should I just go straight to vosa then try and claim some costs back afterwards?
Bought a jaguar xj8 with 10 months mot on it, to be fair I didn't check underneath properly (stupid I know) and after getting it home found the floor to be rotten in several places, the biggest hole is big enough to put ur hand through and there are several other small holes,
I checked vosa website and the say they'll listen to complaints about an mot corrosion issue for up to 3 months after it was tested, but they don't chase compensation or cost of repairs for you.
I'm guessing that would be trading standards, any body else had similar experience and can tell me the best cause of action?
I'm thinking go to the garage and ask them to put right the problems they missed at mot, or should I just go straight to vosa then try and claim some costs back afterwards?
Youmitegetian said:
Hi all,
Bought a jaguar xj8 with 10 months mot on it, to be fair I didn't check underneath properly (stupid I know) and after getting it home found the floor to be rotten in several places, the biggest hole is big enough to put ur hand through and there are several other small holes,
I checked vosa website and the say they'll listen to complaints about an mot corrosion issue for up to 3 months after it was tested, but they don't chase compensation or cost of repairs for you.
I'm guessing that would be trading standards, any body else had similar experience and can tell me the best cause of action?
I'm thinking go to the garage and ask them to put right the problems they missed at mot, or should I just go straight to vosa then try and claim some costs back afterwards?
My old ZT barge came with no advisories on the most recent MOT. Great, I thought. Well until I had it serviced and then found out the brake pipes were so corroded it was dangerous. What I don't get is why a garage would even bother issuing a dodgy MOT these days? I mean for the sake of a few quid you could lose your whole business.Bought a jaguar xj8 with 10 months mot on it, to be fair I didn't check underneath properly (stupid I know) and after getting it home found the floor to be rotten in several places, the biggest hole is big enough to put ur hand through and there are several other small holes,
I checked vosa website and the say they'll listen to complaints about an mot corrosion issue for up to 3 months after it was tested, but they don't chase compensation or cost of repairs for you.
I'm guessing that would be trading standards, any body else had similar experience and can tell me the best cause of action?
I'm thinking go to the garage and ask them to put right the problems they missed at mot, or should I just go straight to vosa then try and claim some costs back afterwards?
kiethton said:
The garage that did the MoT have no obligation to do the repair FOC - that is the responsibility of the owner...hiding to nothing (other than VOSA hassle) if u didn't buy it from them
So the garage can get away with giving an mot to an unroadworthy car? If that's the case why would vosa say about the 3 months for corrosion complaints?I understand that an mot isn't a guarantee but surely that's why vosa have the complaints procedure, there are plenty of things checked by an mot tester that can't be tested by everyone, otherwise there would be no need for an mot
There are areas under the car which fall outside of the testable area, any hole outside a 30 cm distance from suspension or seat belt mountings is not a fail.
As for corroded brake pipes, how do we tell if a pipe has lost more than then a 1/3rd of it's wall thickness without cutting through it?
As for corroded brake pipes, how do we tell if a pipe has lost more than then a 1/3rd of it's wall thickness without cutting through it?
TooMany2cvs said:
Not at all. If they're found to have incorrectly passed a car, they are going to get a very serious b
king at best, and lose their licence at worst.
That's why I guess I'd prefer to deal with them direct, I don't want to be responsible for people losing there jobs or anything. But I don't see why I should lose out because they deliberately or negligently passed an unroadworthy car.king at best, and lose their licence at worst.There's rust along the inner sill/ floor pan, surely that's an mot fail?? And a bigger hole in the footwell near the sill.
The garage is around an hour away from me so don't want to have to drive it there
Youmitegetian said:
That's why I guess I'd prefer to deal with them direct, I don't want to be responsible for people losing there jobs or anything. But I don't see why I should lose out because they deliberately or negligently passed an unroadworthy car.
There's rust along the inner sill/ floor pan, surely that's an mot fail?? And a bigger hole in the footwell near the sill.
The garage is around an hour away from me so don't want to have to drive it there
Did you pay for the test ? No ? Then you have no contract with the testing garage and they owe you nothing.There's rust along the inner sill/ floor pan, surely that's an mot fail?? And a bigger hole in the footwell near the sill.
The garage is around an hour away from me so don't want to have to drive it there
Did you check the car before buying it in a private sale ? Caveat Emptor applies.
marshalla said:
Did you pay for the test ? No ? Then you have no contract with the testing garage and they owe you nothing.
Did you check the car before buying it in a private sale ? Caveat Emptor applies.
Surely there is no point in having an mot if it's entirely buyer beware, and if this was the case vosa wouldn't be offering to inspect the vehicle free of charge and be prepared to take action against the garage regardless of whether or not you owned it at the time of it being tested. I'll talk to the garage first then vosa and post what happens, Did you check the car before buying it in a private sale ? Caveat Emptor applies.
Qwert1e said:
An MOT certificate is not a warranty.
You have absolutely no claim against the garage which issued the MOT certificate. Neither does the person who previously owned the car.
Well maybe that is the case but vosa state 3 months for corrosion and the level of corrosion definitely didn't suddenly happen in 2 months, in fact there's even a hole filled with fibreglass, unfortunately this can only be seen with the car on a ramp, but it's easy to spot it's been there a while, that should sound alarm bells for an mot tester,You have absolutely no claim against the garage which issued the MOT certificate. Neither does the person who previously owned the car.
And I'm sure there are those thinking I was told not to buy a jag that seems to cheap, I took the advice and spend much more than I was intending to and am embarrassed at how much this rust bucket cost, hence why is like to get something towards the repairs from the person/company that deemed it roadworthy 2 months ago when it clearly was not
It aslo depends were the holes are ! If they are not within 30cm of anything structural, or a seat belt mount, the car could be given an MOT..
As for any compensation, as has been said above,there is no obligation for the issuing garage to do anything, but cetainly the DVLA will make investigations into the complaint.
As for any compensation, as has been said above,there is no obligation for the issuing garage to do anything, but cetainly the DVLA will make investigations into the complaint.
Between what Marshalla has said and my own post, you have the full story.
- MOT isn't a warranty
- Even if it was, the warranty benefits only the previous owner - not you.
P100 said:
It aslo depends were the holes are ! If they are not within 30cm of anything structural, or a seat belt mount, the car could be given an MOT..
As for any compensation, as has been said above,there is no obligation for the issuing garage to do anything, but cetainly the DVLA will make investigations into the complaint.
Definitely near jacking points but I'll get it inspected to see if it's within mot areas, the more I investigate I'm finding out that trading standards are the people to talk to, I've now read that if vosa deem that it's bad enough to have failed a legitimate mot within 3 months of the test then it's a trading standards issue regardless of who paid for the mot, watch this space I guessAs for any compensation, as has been said above,there is no obligation for the issuing garage to do anything, but cetainly the DVLA will make investigations into the complaint.
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