Car theft these days ?
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J4CKO

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46,836 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Was just watching an old Wheeler Dealers where they do up a Sierra Cosworth, I was wondering whether cars like that are still a massive theft risk and what cars are targeted these days ?

Does the Joyrider still exist, I get the impression that they dont like they used to, the cars are too hard to steal without the keys and they are too busy on their phones and the internet to go round robbing cars ? there were however that gang of scrotes in Aberdeen, have thy been stopped yet ?


Are BMW's still dissapearing like they were or has that been sorted ?


Anyone had a car stolen recently ?



ben5732

763 posts

185 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Only person I directly know who had a car stolen by 'joyriders' owned a Ford escort within the past few years. I think modern car security have made it near impossible for kids to go out and steal them like they used to.

J4CKO

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46,836 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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ben5732 said:
Only person I directly know who had a car stolen by 'joyriders' owned a Ford escort within the past few years. I think modern car security have made it near impossible for kids to go out and steal them like they used to.
I cant imagine kids nowadays would know how to steal an older car, as generally there isnt much point, the skills have died out and the ones who used to do it are probably hanging round a Wetherspoons waiting for it to open.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

180 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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I think most exciting cars are too hard to steal for joyriding kids.

Stealing cars these days seems to be the realm of organised gangs with the right electronics or scary home invaders who take the keys.

It's no longer in the realms of a couple of teenagers with a central punch and screwdriver and a 50% chance if breaking the steering lock or column.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

241 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Targets in recent years have included Audi RS/S models and other hot German metal. Cars aren't hotwired anymore, theives generally break into the house to get hold of the keys.

Phateuk

995 posts

166 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Snowboy said:
I think most exciting cars are too hard to steal for joyriding kids.

Stealing cars these days seems to be the realm of organised gangs with the right electronics or scary home invaders who take the keys.

It's no longer in the realms of a couple of teenagers with a central punch and screwdriver and a 50% chance if breaking the steering lock or column.
This.

Cars seem to be stolen to order by organised gangs with all the gear required, BMW M cars, RS audis etc. Sometimes just the parts are stolen, like CSL airbox, RS4 recaros etc.. Not pleasant.

A friend of mine had a J-reg astra "stolen" from his drive a few years ago, he found it up the road (less than a mile away) - it turned out someone was walking home from his near-by pub and couldn't be arsed so popped his locks, drove up the road and ditched it.

Instead of paying for the ignition to be replaced, he just used to carry a screwdriver round to start it as the key no longer fit the broken barrel hehe

8bit

5,529 posts

184 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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CaptainSlow said:
Cars aren't hotwired anymore, theives generally break into the house to get hold of the keys.
This. If you think you're safe because you've got a modern car with immobiliser etc. and your keys are in your house then you're deluding yourself. There have been a large number of break-ins for car thefts around where I stay over the past couple of years. Mostly joyriders, cars are often torched once they've had their fun or run out of fuel. Keep your house properly secured and don't just leave your car keys hanging on a hook or on a table beside the front door.

gr1340

991 posts

232 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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8bit said:
Keep your house properly secured and don't just leave your car keys hanging on a hook or on a table beside the front door.
Obviously keep your house secured but I would rather the keys to my car were easily available than have a gang of blokes come in looking for the keys while 2 young children are in the house.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

241 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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8bit said:
CaptainSlow said:
Cars aren't hotwired anymore, theives generally break into the house to get hold of the keys.
This. If you think you're safe because you've got a modern car with immobiliser etc. and your keys are in your house then you're deluding yourself. There have been a large number of break-ins for car thefts around where I stay over the past couple of years. Mostly joyriders, cars are often torched once they've had their fun or run out of fuel. Keep your house properly secured and don't just leave your car keys hanging on a hook or on a table beside the front door.
To be honest, I think best policy is keep keys out of sight from outside but keep them clearly visible between the front door and you once in the house. I wouldn't want to be woken up in the middle of the night and asked where my keys were.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

202 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Snowboy said:
I think most exciting cars are too hard to steal for joyriding kids.

Stealing cars these days seems to be the realm of organised gangs with the right electronics or scary home invaders who take the keys.

It's no longer in the realms of a couple of teenagers with a central punch and screwdriver and a 50% chance if breaking the steering lock or column.
Pretty much spot on, part of my work involves High value thefts.

The top theft without keys at present are Ford, Land Rover (Range rover Etc) and BMW.
Not to say that Audis and mercs are immune, they've had thefts too.

Most are heading out of the country, port of tilbury is quite a hotspot for cars to be moved out of the country.

chrispmartha

23,490 posts

158 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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This is why I park my car away from the house on the street (insurance is cheaper this way also) therefore know one knows which house the keys are kept in.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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I think joyriding has died a death, cars are cheap, so it looks like kids can just buy their own to arse about it whenever they feel like it.

Cars tend to be stolen to be broken for parts or exported. Not sure if ringing is still as popular as it used to be.

The older cars still seem to be as vulnerable as ever, there's been a few posts on stuff like missing escorts.

Qwert1e

545 posts

147 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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chrispmartha said:
This is why I park my car away from the house on the street (insurance is cheaper this way also) therefore know one knows which house the keys are kept in.
Never heard that one before!

750turbo

6,164 posts

253 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Qwert1e said:
chrispmartha said:
This is why I park my car away from the house on the street (insurance is cheaper this way also) therefore know one knows which house the keys are kept in.
Never heard that one before!
Common knowledge in here.

J4CKO

Original Poster:

46,836 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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CaptainSlow said:
Targets in recent years have included Audi RS/S models and other hot German metal. Cars aren't hotwired anymore, theives generally break into the house to get hold of the keys.
Hence "German Whip" biggrin

Most new cars havent been hotwirable for like twenty years now, thankfully.

chrispmartha

23,490 posts

158 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Qwert1e said:
Never heard that one before!
It makes perfect sense, my insurance was over £200 cheaper if I park it on the street away from my house.

Its also sometimes more expensive to park a car in your garage.

rongagin

481 posts

165 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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For me, £8 dearer to park on the drive than in the garage, no idea for street parking?

X5TUU

12,784 posts

216 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Interesting reading through this as I'm currently looking for a cosworth of some variety rather than a more modern German alternative as a bit of a weekend special and had wondered about if it was still an issue or not

OldBuoy

28,997 posts

212 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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chrispmartha said:
This is why I park my car away from the house on the street (insurance is cheaper this way also) therefore know one knows which house the keys are kept in.
If your car is desirable enough you will be followed home.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

152 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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few years ago a gf lost her car off the drive (and the subsequent contents of her house) as she'd left the car keys hanging off a hook in the hallway- yes they clearly fished the keys off the hook through the letterbox, which also had a set of hse keys on.

emptied the house into the car boot and off they went.

we were on holiday and only found out when she turned her phone on several days later, after our plane landed. frown


again, about 6 years ago, someone tried breaking into my house, to clearly steal my fairly new impreza.

where I lived then, was quite rural, there were only 8 houses, only 3 houses (1 being mine) had porches to the rear...... and of all houses, they tried to get into mine, through a very secure multi point locking aluminium porch door, to then be faced with a multipoint upvc door into the main house.

and we had a full alarm system- clearly visible with a lit up alarm box with an LED flashing on the rear- never set off as they simply couldn't breach the porch door.

anyhow they failed, but it cost me money renewing a set of locks.