RE: Shed Of The Week: Toyota MR2
RE: Shed Of The Week: Toyota MR2
Friday 8th August 2014

Shed Of The Week: Toyota MR2

It's a red MR2 that isn't too rusty; must be a winner, right?



Ah yes, the Mister Two. At its 1984 launch it was immediately crowned Japan's car of the year, and even now it's not hard to see why. The MR2 was a golden seahorse in a brackish pond of motoring sludge, a sparkling sprite hovering effortlessly above a compost heap of rotting tubers, an iridium dragonfly flitting gracefully along the bank of a stinking Lancashire canal.

Still looking spot on for nearly 30
Still looking spot on for nearly 30
Okay, that might be overdoing it a bit. There were other 80s Japanese cars that were decent, but none of them managed to put together the package of mid-engined Euro handling and sharp style quite as neatly as the MR2.

The last MR2 we featured here was back in February 2013, but that was a second-gen W20. This one is your actual first-gen W10, with the proper 1.6-litre twin-cam AW11 motor that we Euros were lucky enough to get. Less fortunate markets received a 1.5 SOHC lump as popularised by any number of Asian slumbermobiles.

With as little as 950kg to shift (assuming you didn't live in the US) and 130hp to shift it with (assuming you did live in the UK or Japan), the MR2 zipped along nicely. We Brits didn't get the Supercharged model, oddly, but that was actually no great loss as the Rootes-type blower only pitched in 15 extra horsepower. You'd think that having gone to the trouble of tacking all that blower hardware on (including an intercooler), Toyota might have released the hounds a bit more, but who are we to question the decision making ability of a global super-corporation?

Who wouldn't want a Midship Runabout?
Who wouldn't want a Midship Runabout?
Back on topic, the standard NA version hit eight-second 0-60s and delivered an edgy, seat-o'-the-pants driving experience that endeared it to many. The position of the engine right behind your scone meant you needed to be quick on the wheel once the first inklings of traction loss were felt. In fact, if you waited until that point you were probably too late, but it was all part of the good clean fun.

The only ones who might find something to complain about in an MR2 would be the OCD Keith Lard types who insist on travelling with more than a toothbrush and a pair of undercrackers. Luggage-carrying was never part of the brief.

Your man selling this one is clearly an MR2 enthusiast as he has covered off all the major model pitfalls in his ad. If the next owner is of a similarly enthusiastic bent he will doubtless address the crinkly brown stuff blighting the rear offside arch. Doesn't look to be a major job, does it? Unless of course the inner arches have turned to biscuit. Which is entirely possible.

Revvy twin cam made 130hp. May not now
Revvy twin cam made 130hp. May not now
Rust is a huge worry with these cars. As previous PH scribbler Scrof found to his cost, sills are quite literally the be-all and the end-all of MR2 ownership. A car could look pristine on the outside, but that means nothing: not-so-clever design means that MR2 sills rot from the inside. Shed says he would be prepared to eat his best Worzel Gummidge hat if the rust you see on that rear arch is the only rust on this car - and original Toyota repair sections are very much not cheap.

Happily, the internet is not short of how-to accounts of home-brewed repairs using metal sheets, MIG welders and large hammers. This video is Shed's favourite. Its indicated 2:13 duration gets you all excited about the prospect of a quick job, only for your hopes to be cruelly dashed when you realise that the video is actually 40 hours work compressed into two giddy-making minutes. Admittedly, the car they're working on there had a bent B-post to add to its woes, but the point about rusty MR2 sills is made. Take your dibbing stick along to the viewing. If the vendor goes white at the sight of it, and starts pointing to random things in the sky or on the ground while engaging you on such topics as Scottish independence and the price of eggs, be warned. In his defence, the vendor puts across a credible air of transparency and says nothing has come up on the MoT. He's even providing a fresh ticket as part of the deal, so that's a year's motoring at least.

Clearly, this is not a pristine example. The driver's seat looks a bit like one of those handbags made out of offcuts that Mrs Shed likes to buy in charity shops, the ones that look old (in a bad way) even when they're new. But the MR2 is 27 years old, and it is Japanese. The fact that it's here at all is something to be celebrated. Let's just hope that the owner's transparency isn't reflected in those sills.

Here's the ad.

MR2 MK1 T-Bar 1987 registered Aug 87. The car has Tax till Oct and MOT till mid Sept and has covered 149950 miles.
I will add 1 year's MOT before it leaves me.

HPI Clear when I purchased this car and still have the certificate.

Full leather interior with matching leather door cards and T-bar sun shades in their original bags.
Original Toyota tool kit and jack.
Standard 4AGE engine, 16 valve DOHC 1.6 litre and 5 speed manual gearbox -No gearbox pop-out issues.

I have owned this car since July 2001 and currently use it as a 2nd car although it has been my daily driver. I have an extensive service history-file now 2 inches thick with every bill, MOT & other documents including all the data for the 5 previous owners.
It's recently had four new quality tyres and new front brake discs and pads fitted about 1500 miles ago.
Standard "Teardrop" Toyota wheels with unused spare and tyre - (wheels were refurbished in 2001).
Fitted security wheel nuts.
Recent refresh of some suspension bushes, drop-link, ball joint and drive shaft gaitor.
Recent service of engine oil, oil filter, spark plugs and air filter etc.

Recent replacement of gearbox oil seals and refilled with Red Line MT-90 gear oil.
Many parts refreshed over my ownership including new, alternator, radiator, both rear brake calipers, hand brake cables, clutch assembly and beautiful Momo Montecarlo steering wheel and Boss (still have the original Toyota wheel).
Aftermarket Goodmans RDS stereo radio & CD player with removable face with Ipod/Iphone connector.
The original electric aerial, electric mirrors, central locking, electric windows all working well.

Fitted theft prevention security device and hidden engine inhibitor switch.

Body in good to fair condition, rear offside wheel arch has the usual rust but nothing major nor advised in last MOT.

Car starts first time and is very reliable, a cheap and fun car to run and now getting collectable, any questions please email.

   
   
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Motorrad

Original Poster:

6,811 posts

217 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Years ago I was following a friend of a friend who had one of these.

Even though he was meant to be showing me where to go he seemed to take it as a chance to show a crappy hot hatch just how 'fast' a proper sports car is.

He seemed somewhat dismayed I was keeping up in my crappy 205GTi and kept pushing and pushing upto the point where the car just seemed to pivot on it's own axis and he went flying ino a hedge narrowly missing a wooden bus shelter with a bemused but lucky group of public transport users in it.

I wasn't even trying in the 205 and this thing just seemed to snap suddenly out of control.

It was at that point I decided I'd love to own one (and take some driving tuition) biggrin

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

193 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Wow. £1k for a 27 year old car with 150k miles and possible terminal rust. I'm sure it is a fair price, but just goes to show how much people will pay for two seats and the possibility of a half decent drive.

Dr Interceptor

8,183 posts

226 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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It's got at least three matching tyres thumbup

That drivers seat looks really tatty though....

over_the_hill

3,333 posts

276 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Wheeler Dealers - Where are Mike and Edd

SrMoreno

546 posts

176 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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SteveSteveson said:
Wow. £1k for a 27 year old car with 150k miles and possible terminal rust. I'm sure it is a fair price, but just goes to show how much people will pay for two seats and the possibility of a half decent drive.
£1k for a lightweight, mid-engined sportscar. More smiles/£ than any hatchback or barge. Sounds like a good deal to me.

Bassfiend229hp

5,530 posts

280 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Worth it just for the gearlever... hehe

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

231 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I loved mine - but the rust was starting to bubble ominously in numerous places when I sold it - and that was 16 years ago when it was 10 years old.

If they still made them and I didn't have 2 kids to carry about now, I'd have a new one tomorrow.

Edit - ah yes, I remember that gearleaver, more phallic than a phallic thing.

whythem

773 posts

207 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I'd rather have one of these, than a hot hatch of the same period.

r11co

6,244 posts

260 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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over_the_hill said:
Wheeler Dealers - Where are Mike and Edd
Been, seen, done!

New alternator?? Who'da thunk it!

Alfa159Ti

856 posts

187 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I am much better acquainted with the MK2s, but do remember a couple of mates owning MK1s in the early noughties (god I hate that term) when I was a young lad and had just learnt to drive.

They seemed really exciting back then even just to sit in and I remember both seemed to handle very well and had zingy, revvy little engines that went quite well.

Rose tinted specs may play a part of course. Would love to have a proper drive of a decent one now. I bet they are a hoot and must seem really raw by todays standards.

hairykrishna

14,495 posts

233 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I bought one last week - it's my third. They're great fun and I'd recommend them to anyone. Good ones are going up in price and if the one the one in the ad is genuinely close to rust free it'll be snapped up quick.

lightthefuse

426 posts

202 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Not the quickest, not the easiest to drive, not the easiest to maintain.

I'd have one in a heartbeat and very nearly bought the nowhere-near-decent 1.5 version (LHD natch) for a toy when I saw one at a shed price. That was close to rust-free too and an even rarer sight on Swedish roads.

benedwards64

2,521 posts

164 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I've had two of these now. The first was a UK NA which I bought back in 2008 for £650 and then tinkered with a few bits and pieces. Last I heard it was still in the hands of the chap I sold it to as a track car.

The second, recently departed (from my ownership at least!) was a JDM Supercharged model. The extra 15bhp ([pedant]23 actually, since UK cars had 122bhp not 130[/pedant]) is only part of the story, the instant extra torque made a big difference to the driveability. Of course I also installed a big pulley kit and upped the power to around the 180bhp mark, which made things much more interesting biggrin

You can get a surprisingly large amount in them as well - a combination of the two boots is plenty room for a full supermarket trolley's worth, for example. You're never going to shift a sofa, but you can get more in than you'd expect.

AC43

13,617 posts

238 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Alfa159Ti said:
They seemed really exciting back then even just to sit in and I remember both seemed to handle very well and had zingy, revvy little engines that went quite well.

Rose tinted specs may play a part of course.
They were amazing at the time. Great steering, brakes, handling.

over_the_hill

3,333 posts

276 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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r11co said:
over_the_hill said:
Wheeler Dealers - Where are Mike and Edd
Been, seen, done!

New alternator?? Who'da thunk it!
Yes - not a bad episode and the replacement panel seemed easy to fit - but then they always are on TV.

Now " 'Old out yer 'and"

B'stard Child

31,105 posts

276 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I have a friend who uses these and the later MKII's as track day cars - they are wonderfully balanced and a lot of fun and while RWD is always my preference I'd much prefer a 205 Gti from the same era as a fun thing for road and track

SmartVenom

462 posts

199 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Unfortunately if the rust is visible it's probably a lot worse underneath. Rust is the only really bad thing about these cars. Get a good one, make a few choice upgrades and you'll embaress far more powerful machinery on track. The standard wheels weigh a tonne so start with swapping them for some BBS ones. Chuck in gas dampers and new springs and you'll have a sweet handling car.

Definitely don't make 130bhp as standard. Even with a better exhaust and filter you won't see 130.

suffolk009

7,885 posts

195 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Back in 1989 my mother sought the advice of her two sons on which sportscar to buy. I suggested a nice lotus Elan coupe that was for sale at Daytune. My brother sent her in the direction of a spotless MR2 that was just a few months and 3000 miles old.

She bought the MR2.

Since then it has covered just 40,000 miles, rarely ever been out in the rain, has been kept in a garage on a trickle charger, never ever been driven hard, and never really beyond 60mph. It has been thoroughly pampered and used very sparingly. And yet it's somehow been a constant battle with rust! £1800 in bodywork in the last few weeks.

ETA: I didn't realise that it has the same engine as my MX5. Don't think it's ever been 130bhp!



Edited by suffolk009 on Friday 8th August 09:40

kpb

305 posts

205 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Lovely little motor - i've always fancied an MR2 but I fear, given my 1991 Corolla GTi-16 was turning to dust when I sold it in 1999, that you'd have to be really in love with these to risk buying one.

I'd rather save up and get the best that money could buy, rather than spend 100's of hours trying to sort out a shabby one.

mrpenks

390 posts

185 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I adore my Mk1 MR2. The most fun car to drive I've ever owned. I will never sell it.