Do turbo engines run hotter than na engines?
Do turbo engines run hotter than na engines?
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A500leroy

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6,931 posts

134 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I only ask because whilst my engine is running it stays fairly cool, however after it's been turned off the heat under the bonnet quickly rises and your unable to touch anything for a few hours.

Normal in warm weather?

MissChief

7,572 posts

184 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I would say so, yes. Obviously the exhaust gasses are made to work harder and spin the turbo before exiting out the exhaust itself so this heat isn't radiated away from the engine as quickly. A turbo can run very hot indeed so that doesn't surprise me. Most modern turbo charged cars run the oil through the turbo for a few minutes even after turning the engine off for this very reason.

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

180 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Superhoop

4,768 posts

209 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Saab 900 Turbo lump ^^^

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

183 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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MajorProblem said:
I have had naturally aspirated exhausts cherry red.

LukeR94

2,218 posts

157 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Willy Nilly said:
MajorProblem said:
I have had naturally aspirated exhausts cherry red.
bet it wasnt as hot as that though

robinessex

11,626 posts

197 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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As you can see from those pics, the turbo plus accociated bits do get hot. It's a good idea on a turbo engine to do the last few miles at a moderate pace, and let things cool down before switching the engine off. And off the top of my head, I can't put my finger on any engines that run the oil pump after switch off.

off_again

13,914 posts

250 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Engine bay heat yes - technically hotter in the engine? Maybe part of the exhaust and the turbo naturally, but typically they run at a lower compression and I would guess less heat in the block itself. But overall, engine bay temp will be higher - usually countered by additional cooling, ventilation or similar.

750turbo

6,164 posts

240 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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MajorProblem said:
Looks like it is running a wee bit lean wink



kambites

69,762 posts

237 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I'd imagine a turbocharged engine typically puts out a similar amount of heat to a naturally aspirated one of the same power output. Turbos tend to suffer more from "hot spots" though - the turbochargers themselves and exhausts get very hot.

Impasse

15,099 posts

257 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Love these type of photos.




750turbo

6,164 posts

240 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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MissChief said:
I would say so, yes. Obviously the exhaust gasses are made to work harder and spin the turbo before exiting out the exhaust itself so this heat isn't radiated away from the engine as quickly. A turbo can run very hot indeed so that doesn't surprise me. Most modern turbo charged cars run the oil through the turbo for a few minutes even after turning the engine off for this very reason.
I need to keep my engine running wink



Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

183 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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LukeR94 said:
Willy Nilly said:
MajorProblem said:
I have had naturally aspirated exhausts cherry red.
bet it wasnt as hot as that though
They were diesel and the cherry exhaust was further away from the engine.

longshot

3,286 posts

214 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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robinessex said:
As you can see from those pics, the turbo plus accociated bits do get hot. It's a good idea on a turbo engine to do the last few miles at a moderate pace, and let things cool down before switching the engine off. And off the top of my head, I can't put my finger on any engines that run the oil pump after switch off.
yes The last 5 minutes off boost is a good idea to help get the temps down which helps prevent burnt oil accumilation in the turbo. (So I'm told)

Some people fit turbo timers which do the job for you but your insurers may not like it.

Steve93

1,148 posts

206 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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biggrin A glowing turbo thread

Here's mine.

CharlesAL

532 posts

140 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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My turbo golf gti runs at the same temp as my na seat ibiza did.

s m

23,917 posts

219 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Steve93 said:
biggrin A glowing turbo thread

Here's mine.
It's not really hot till you can see the ghost of the impellors in the housings wink

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

183 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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CharlesAL said:
My turbo golf gti runs at the same temp as my na seat ibiza did.
The water temperature will be exactly the same. Forced induction allows more fuel to be burnt so there is more heat generated for a given size of engine, but the combustion temperatures will be the same, there's just more combustion going on.

ILoveMondeo

9,614 posts

242 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Haven't had a turbo petrol car for ages, always loved to take a peek at a glowing engine bay after a drive!

Would be so long ago that it was pre camera phones, Nissan silvia (the old wedge shape) and rover tomcat!

Huff

3,309 posts

207 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Actually good point hidden there - digital cameras are *much* more sensitive to IR than film ever was, which tends to flatter the resultant images/owners wink

To answer the OP directly - in most average use, no real difference in engine temps at all. Otherwise we'd have seen a revolution in cooling system pressurisation (nope, all still let go about 1bar) and/or recommended coolants. This is becasue the radiator is, always has been usually oversized for the h
expected duty and actual engine/colant temp is managed by the thermostat. Yes, the turbo's exhaust turbine housing and associated wastegte/manifold may get a bit warm, but it's only about 3-5KG of metal and entirely designed to do so - don't worry about it.