Emissions MOT Fail (But Only Just) - What Are My Options?
Emissions MOT Fail (But Only Just) - What Are My Options?
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KareemK

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1,110 posts

148 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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I have an old (W reg) VW Golf that I use strictly for running stuff to the local dump, picking up shopping etc etc etc. It does about 1,000 miles per year at most but it's failed its MOT on Emissions.

It had to reach 0.2 on the Carbon emissions measure and on its first attempt was at 0.5. The garage stuck a fluid in the fuel tank and told me to go for a run for 1/2 an hour to really warm the cat up so that this fluid could flush through and clean it out.

I did this and at the end of 1/2 an hour I ran the car straight into the MOT bay and had the probe inserted into the exhaust and it had gone down to 2.6 - still too high.

The car is only worth about £750 and other than the emissions is still perfectly OK. The garage said that the next step is to do diagnostics on it.

It had a new cat 3 years ago and new lamda sensors as well so wont be as simple as merely replacing those.

This diagnostics investigation would 'cost money' they said and to be fair to them they also said that they didn't want to see me throw lots of money at it.

So, my question is, does anybody have any ideas of small tweaks to get the car down to the required 0.2 in the test from 0.26? Is there (perhaps) another fluid I can try? Seems ridiculous to write off a perfectly good barge for the sake of 0.06 on the MOT emissions test.

Cheers

Megaflow

11,512 posts

254 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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More details required. What was the lambda reading and the HC?

J4CKO

46,838 posts

229 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Has it had a new air filter recently ?

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Petrol or diesel?

1000 miles a year and short journeys is a sure way to clog up a cars engine especially modern engines with exhaust gas recirculation systems and secondary air systems and such like.

Perhaps you just need to give the engine more of a spanking and take it right through the rev range in 2nd an 3rd!

Failing that, a quick run on VAGCOM -the diagnostics program will highlight any faults like temperature sensors which are perhaps making the car run rich. If it's running rich you will usually find wet/dirty spark plugs and lots of black residue on the exhaust tips.

KareemK

Original Poster:

1,110 posts

148 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Megaflow said:
More details required. What was the lambda reading and the HC?
I'll find out if I can within the next hour or so. Cheers.

KareemK

Original Poster:

1,110 posts

148 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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New Air Filter about 2 years ago

Petrol engine 2 Litre


TinyCappo

2,106 posts

182 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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new airfilter from Halfrauds. £8 and retest. Once you have taken it up and down the motorway for about half an hour in 4th gear to really get that cat hot and burn off all the crud thats in it from doing nothing but little work.

radiodanno

1,092 posts

159 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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I'd personally try some new oil, 99ron unleaded and an absolute spanking of an Italian tune up.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Proper Italian tune up immediately prior will give it a good chance.

KareemK

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148 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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TinyCappo said:
new airfilter from Halfrauds.
thumbup Will get one this lunchtime.

Anything else I can buy?

KareemK

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Monday 18th August 2014
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radiodanno/hornetrider said:
Proper Italian tune up immediately prior will give it a good chance.
Whats an Italian tune up please?

TinyCappo

2,106 posts

182 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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nothing else really worth it. unless your going to do oil and filter and spark plugs to boot.

LordHaveMurci

12,336 posts

198 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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KareemK said:
radiodanno/hornetrider said:
Proper Italian tune up immediately prior will give it a good chance.
Whats an Italian tune up please?
Gee whizz, things you thought you'd never hear on a site for petrolheads rolleyes

Impasse

15,099 posts

270 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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KareemK said:
Whats an Italian tune up please?
Essentially thrashing the knackers off it.

As above really. Change the air filter, plugs and oil. Check the oil vapour breathers are clear. Then thrash it again.

KareemK

Original Poster:

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148 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Re: the Lambda readings and HC

Just spoke to the garage who said they aborted the Emissions test before the print out stage as it was so high 0.5 that it was never gouing to make it so they didn't continue as they would have had to rev the car so hard it would have knocked the emissions machine out-of-sync.

The follow up test which acheived 0.26 (I watched that one happen) was similarly aborted when it became clear it wasn't going to make 0.2

Craikeybaby

12,116 posts

254 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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My MR2 also does low milage and failed the emissions test at the MOT. An Italian tune up sorted it out.

loafer123

16,713 posts

244 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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KareemK said:
TinyCappo said:
new airfilter from Halfrauds.
thumbup Will get one this lunchtime.

Anything else I can buy?
Decent European fuel - it's that Russian stuff that's knackering your engine.

wink

SSBB

698 posts

185 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Are these engines fuel injected?

KareemK

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1,110 posts

148 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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SSBB said:
Are these engines fuel injected?
Yes.

Old ford

18 posts

145 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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agree with the other, new filter and plugs and a good thrashing to within an inch of its life.