Sensitive driving related issue...
Sensitive driving related issue...
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Rick Cutler

635 posts

247 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Book them on an advanced driving course. Tell them it's to lower their insurance. Book a driving experience and get them to drive fast and safe. My other half drives better after the experience.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

165 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Man up, some people are good drivers, some are poor, thats just the way it goes - as you said yourself, if you aren't comfortable with getting in the car then don't.

A wee chat is hardly likely to change anything.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Rick Cutler said:
Book them on an advanced driving course. Tell them it's to lower their insurance.
This.

SEAN 46

102 posts

205 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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I reported my 83 year old relative to the Police and DVLA due to his shocking driving standards. He's written off 3 cars in 3 years has regular minor crashes. He bumped a neighbours car the other day and crashed through a wall and landed in a hotel garden the other month.
Told him he shouldn't be driving but no he thinks he's as good as Lewis Hamilton behind the wheel so won't give up driving.
The DVLA say he needs to be tested by a doctor to check he's fit to drive and guess what he passed lol!!
As we speak his latest car is in for repair after yet another 'minor accident'.
He will only stop driving when he kills someone or himself but the law says he fine to drive?????
We live in a mad world!

ChasW

2,162 posts

232 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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If I did not feel safe I would say something irrespective of who is driving. Generally only give constructive advice to my kids and occasionally to OH.

scdan4

1,299 posts

190 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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It's your missus isn't it?!

Slightly odd suggestion - novice trackday with instruction in a slow car. Lots of good fun, lots of car control, lots of thinking and planning ahead. Lots of transferable skills.

And it avoids the "i think you're crap" conversation. hehe

Qwert1e

545 posts

148 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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TooMany2cvs said:
Rick Cutler said:
Book them on an advanced driving course. Tell them it's to lower their insurance.
This.
Yup, another vote from me.

PorkInsider

6,594 posts

171 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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SEAN 46 said:
I reported my 83 year old relative to the Police and DVLA due to his shocking driving standards. He's written off 3 cars in 3 years has regular minor crashes. He bumped a neighbours car the other day and crashed through a wall and landed in a hotel garden the other month.
Told him he shouldn't be driving but no he thinks he's as good as Lewis Hamilton behind the wheel so won't give up driving.
The DVLA say he needs to be tested by a doctor to check he's fit to drive and guess what he passed lol!!
As we speak his latest car is in for repair after yet another 'minor accident'.
He will only stop driving when he kills someone or himself but the law says he fine to drive?????
We live in a mad world!
How on earth is he still getting insurance with that number of claims? Assuming he's involving other people in his accidents...

bitchstewie

67,679 posts

240 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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If I knew them well enough I'd simply tell them.

Whilst things like the courses are a really good suggestion, if your friend smelled bad presumably you wouldn't try to get them to improve things by being subtle and handing them a can of Lynx, you'd talk to them first, IYSWIM?

pills

1,822 posts

267 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Some IAM groups do a driver assessment run on an open day. In Sheffield it's a Sunday morning once a month. Perhaps you could both attend something like this? Normally it's just an hours drive with an observer and some feedback.

fwaggie

1,644 posts

230 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Sounds like they really need to be pushed outside their usual driving environment.

A week long driving holiday around France would be good - a mix of the motorways and backroads. The amount of traffic in France is minuscule outside of the big cities and it is a wonderfully relaxing and enjoyable experience driving around the what we would call the A roads, lovely scenery, lovely villages, empty roads.

Do it in an old, slow, very comfy barge so they cannot drive fast and frantically.

I think people who are nervous like this are not nervous of the driving itself, but they're panicked by the amount of traffic around them, the amount of sensory input, and that completely prevents them from "learning to drive", so nothing becomes automatic and they have to consciously think about the act of driving itself. A catch 22 situation.

Removing the traffic and make the environment a pleasant one, and make the vehicle a relaxing one and everything just gels and falls into place.

On the way back to the UK navigate back via increasingly larger towns and more main roads to introduce the challenge of dealing with other vehicles.

(and don't even think of going anywhere near Paris in the car!)

s p a c e m a n

12,100 posts

178 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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They're not half blind and don't know it do they? I had a girlfriend who used to scare the st out of me, everything was last minute and no planing, always flying into dodgy situations and tailgating. Turned out anything more than 50 meters away was blurry and she thought this was normal, looked at me like I had the vision of superman when I read a motorway sign from 100 meters away hehe

jcochrane

10 posts

219 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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That's a tricky one. Can you be honest with this person and say that you don't feel comfortable being a passenger, as you have here? This might follow on with you suggesting that you do the driving when out together. if they make comments along the lines of what they can do about improving I would not point them in the direction of IAM or RoADA. From what you have described they do not and are not ready for advanced tuition provided by these two organisations. The organisations are for reasonably competent drivers become better not to take drivers with basic driving issues and sort them out. I know this does happen from first hand experience but Observers/Tutors are not ADI's with dual control cars. If they are as bad as you say they probably need professional help in a car with dual controls (for peace of mind of the instructor).

andy-xr

13,204 posts

234 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Well, it's not up to you, only thing I can suggest is not get into a car with them

MagicMike

234 posts

150 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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SEAN 46 said:
I reported my 83 year old relative to the Police and DVLA due to his shocking driving standards. He's written off 3 cars in 3 years has regular minor crashes. He bumped a neighbours car the other day and crashed through a wall and landed in a hotel garden the other month!
Am I the only one who pictured an old man rolling on the lawn, after flying out of the car like some stuntman?

MagicMike

234 posts

150 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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SEAN 46 said:
I reported my 83 year old relative to the Police and DVLA due to his shocking driving standards. He's written off 3 cars in 3 years has regular minor crashes. He bumped a neighbours car the other day and crashed through a wall and landed in a hotel garden the other month!
Am I the only one who pictured an old man rolling on the lawn, after flying out of the car like some stuntman?

GaryGlitter

2,289 posts

213 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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Whatever you do, don't post a video of them on here reversing onto their driveway once they've been on an advanced driving course.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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SEAN 46 said:
I reported my 83 year old relative to the Police and DVLA due to his shocking driving standards. He's written off 3 cars in 3 years has regular minor crashes. He bumped a neighbours car the other day and crashed through a wall and landed in a hotel garden the other month.
Told him he shouldn't be driving but no he thinks he's as good as Lewis Hamilton behind the wheel so won't give up driving.
The DVLA say he needs to be tested by a doctor to check he's fit to drive and guess what he passed lol!!
As we speak his latest car is in for repair after yet another 'minor accident'.
He will only stop driving when he kills someone or himself but the law says he fine to drive?????
We live in a mad world!
There's a big difference between "medically fit to drive" and "competent". All that's happened so far is that the Doc's said that he's not demonstrably medically unfit.

I suspect that he's paying for repairs himself, and fibbing to insurance about his clean record.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,086 posts

180 months

Sunday 24th August 2014
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What do they think of their own driving?

There is no problem in being a rotten driver, so long as you know it. The danger comes when people aren't as good as they think they are.

A bad driver who knows they are bad is going to be a lower risk than a good driver who thinks they are brilliant.