RE: Audi Q7 V12 TDI: You Know You Want To
RE: Audi Q7 V12 TDI: You Know You Want To
Tuesday 26th August 2014

Audi Q7 V12 TDI: You Know You Want To

If you're going to do obnoxious you may as well do it properly



As we all know, stereotypes are nothing more than a lazy shorthand based on rumour, negativity and - often - outright slander. That said, as a breed, Audi Q7 drivers do seem almost universally determined to reinforce in the minds of observers a reputation for fearing little and respecting less.

Jacked up for pics, like it needed to be
Jacked up for pics, like it needed to be
Except, maybe, for this. Because in a world where SUV buying has long since turned into an arms race, the Q7 V12 TDI is pretty close to being the biggest, bluntest weapon of the lot. It's the guiltiest of guilty pleasures - even admitting a sneaking regard for a car like this is likely to get you ostracised from polite society. But if you're going to buy a huge, sod-off 4x4 then why not get the sod-offest of the lot?

Although the V12 looks superficially like the sort of common-or-garden Q7 that you'll see bump parking outside the local prep school at chucking-out time, it's actually an extremely exotic beast. For a start, this is the only 12-cylinder diesel engine that's ever been fitted to a production passenger car, a USP that looks future proof now that even Bentley admits any future compression-ignition powerplant would be based on the smaller Audi V8.

Fully loaded and so you'd hope for £100K rrp
Fully loaded and so you'd hope for £100K rrp
And there's some proper racing heritage, too - for the engine at least. The 6.0-litre V12 shares its fundamental design with the engine fitted to the Le Mans winning R10 TDI, and Audi gave serious consideration to putting the same motor into an oil-burning R8, going so far as to build a concept prototype. Even six years after it was introduced the Q7 V12's output still looks serious: 500hp and a frankly preposterous 738lb ft of torque. Audi claimed a 5.5-sec 0-62mph time and a 155mph top speed; this in a car that weighs 2,635kg. Other modifications included a wider track and revised suspension, plus ceramic brakes as standard.

The numerical shock-and-awe extended to the pricetag, which was nearly twice as much as the V8 TDI. This car would have listed at £100,370 before options back in 2012, the last year before the model was quietly withdrawn. Despite that, sales weren't quite as limited as you might expect - there are two others in the PH Classifieds at the moment. This one is being sold by an Audi dealer and comes with a used approved warranty. That said, it's still £700 more than a brand new 4.2 TDI S-Line Sport, the car that now sits at the top of the Q7 range. And which, presumably, the V12 can bully out of any overtaking lane it finds itself sitting behind in.

And although 12-cylinder diesel engines might have been a blind alley, the V12 TDI's modest success - and immodest pricetag - were undoubtedly factors in persuading other manufacturers to sign off the plethora of £100,000-plus ultra-luxury SUVs that are set for launch in the next few years. That makes it either a car ahead of its time, or the epitome of evil incarnate, depending on your point of view. As one PHer responded to its introduction back in 2008: "That is obscene. I like it."


AUDI Q7 V12 TDI
Price:
£64,995
Why you should: You want other SUVs to respect your authoritah
Why you shouldn't: Everyone will hate you.

Original advert here.

 

 

 

 

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ajmcampbell

Original Poster:

518 posts

166 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Enormous waste of a wonderful powerplant.

C.A.R.

3,992 posts

218 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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It definitely has 'something'. It's hideous and very pointless, but it makes up for it by carrying such lude performance figures.

Ultimate waft-mobile.

Limpet

6,624 posts

191 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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What an engine.

Schermerhorn

4,353 posts

219 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Didn't these come with carbon brakes?

IIRC they were around £12,000 all around with pads.

Mental!

Don1

16,804 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Pft. Much prefer my £5k V10 Phaeton...

VladD

8,199 posts

295 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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TDi, no thanks.

"You know you want to"? Seriously?

thatdude

2,660 posts

157 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Super-mega-world-market-trading drug dealers vehicle

I actually like the idea of a V12 diesel. My mind does wonder about the transmission with all that torque, but then if im rich enough to afford one, run one then im rich enough to replace the transmission every 20,000 miles (booting it from cops, the FBI, interpol and of course the other drug gang after a deal went wrong is going to eat up the trans quickly right?)




Dale487

1,469 posts

153 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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No

The head line sums it up prefectly

renaultgeek

473 posts

178 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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i don't think its worth the several multiples over a v10 touareg.

bmthnick1981

5,320 posts

246 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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I like it, shame they didnt make a V12 TDI A8 though, or a Phateon. Or how about stuffing it in a Skoda Superb? That would be.... er....


exceed

455 posts

206 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Why put their best engine in their crappest car?

Still huge want for this though, just not in that horrible colour. Need something more discreet.

Audi has actually done it's best to ruin white cars for me and everybody else.

mrclav

1,645 posts

253 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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If I was a family man, I so would - just seeing pissed off people in my rear-view mirrors would make it worth the purchase price alone for me.

TheInsanity1234

740 posts

149 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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I do, yes, of course I do.

But really, what I want is that V12 TDi stuffed in the front of something else.

Something smaller.

Something lighter.

As another poster said, a Skoda Superb, maybe?

ETA: Not that particular one, obviously. It looks like it's had it's ride raised, and I'm not keen on that at all.

Edited by TheInsanity1234 on Tuesday 26th August 16:21

Amirhussain

11,652 posts

193 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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mrclav said:
If I was a family man, I so would - just seeing pissed off people in my rear-view mirrors would make it worth the purchase price alone for me.
Not in white though for me.

kambites

71,482 posts

251 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Sums up modern SUVs really.

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

177 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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I love stupid crazy cars like this.

but i hate this car.

I don't know how Audi have done it but even this huge nutty powerful in your face 4x4 is somehow dull as anything.



unsprung

6,054 posts

154 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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"This car would have listed at £100,370 before options back in 2012..."

Insane.

Still, with 738lb ft on tap, it would be fun simply to put the gear selector in Drive and... without touching the accelerator... watch the car climb up a wall.


SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

250 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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You Know You Want To said:
As we all know, stereotypes are nothing more than a lazy shorthand based on rumour, negativity and - often - outright slander.
Look inside most urban 4x4s in the south east and Essex and you will see a little 5ft something MILF driving it. It isn't rumour or slander, it's a fact.


smilo996

3,836 posts

200 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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As we all know, stereotypes are nothing more than a lazy shorthand based on rumour, negativity and - often - outright slander

Or based on observation of reality.

This is the best comment.

And there's some proper racing heritage, too - for the engine at least. The 6.0-litre V12 shares its fundamental design with the engine fitted to the Le Mans winning R10 TDI

What it has 12 cylinders.

The Q7 really is absurd and pointless. That if course is a lazy shorthand based on rumour, negativity and often outright slander, unless anyone tries to justify why they drive one.

Shaoxter

4,605 posts

154 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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The interior looks incredibly drab for a £100k car.