Scamming, the next level?

[judas]

Had an interesting new twist of the car buying scam today. Received a text from a non-UK number (red flag number 1) asking me to email further details and photos of my car to an email address. I figured it would be a scam but sent a reply asking for confirmation that this was required. Got the following response:

scammer said:

Hi There, Thanks for your email. I really want to buy your car as i need it on my arrival to the UK. Will be travelling from France and will be there in the next few days. If you can wait a few days i will pay your asking price in cash. I can pay 15% deposit by PayPal or Bank transfer so that you can hold it for me as i love it in all aspects. My bank here in France will lend me the funds and they are requesting for two separate documents to get the money cleared to me.

I will be needing :
- a copy of the registration certificate or Receipts/Invoices
and front and back copy of your driver's license, or ID
Plus documents such as MOT, Road tax disc, insurance certificate, receipt or anything similar showing your name and address same as on the v5
I need the documents for my bank. (they need the requested documents to lend me the cash).

The loan has been approved but bank needs to see what i am paying for because with all this scams in the UK now they are careful when giving loan as most of the times people are loosing the funds shortly after.

P.S : See attached my documents just to prove that i am a genuine buyer and want to purchase.

On arrival of the requested documents i can do 15% by PayPal or Bank transfer at your convenience. I have a farm & garden machinery export firm in Bristol myself but had a few months holiday in France and its easier for us to get a loan for a car here.

Thank you,
Daniel Guillaume

The attached 'proof' of identity was a photo of a driving licence for Daniel Guillame - presumably to last poor sap to respond to the request for documents in paragraph 2.

Everything about it stinks to high heaven, but presumably enough people fall for it to be worthwhile. I was going to reply to string them along, but I can't even be arsed to do that.

ETA: if anyone else wants to have a play with them: [e-mail] or [phone] (a Spanish number, despite claiming to be in France)

Edited by judas on Wednesday 27th August 15:53

[RedBull]

I can't help thinking that anyone stupid enough to comply with his request has sort of got it coming really. It's amazing that anyone still falls for these.

[TheEnd]

I read somewhere (might even have been here) that the scams are often purposefully stupid, so they only hook the idiots, and don't end up wasting time with smart people.

[LukeR94]

(flame suit on)


Anyone else get the feeling this may be genuine? (I would never do it, just incase)


Usually if you paste the text into google it brings up things about it, in this case, not a thing.

[Trif]

Should reply back with this:

[anothernameitist]

^ its starts off with a good command of engerlish.

Then tails off.

SCAM.

If the good engerlish had continued, I'd have asked which bank branch and can I send the documents there ( Not)

[nick s]

Once had a similar email when selling my Elise. French guy offering paypal deposits etc. I told him no, but if he wanted the car, to turn up with cash to my house and he could have it.

Next day he turns up with 14,000 euros in a backpack!

[anothernameitist]

^ All forged

[judas]

LukeR94 said:

(flame suit on)


Anyone else get the feeling this may be genuine? (I would never do it, just incase)


Usually if you paste the text into google it brings up things about it, in this case, not a thing.

Why on earth would a French bank require a copy of my driving licence to make a loan to a third party? Nope, the whole thing is scammier than a scammy thing.

Plus the usual giveaway: not a single question about the car, just a unbelievable willingness to pay a 'deposit'.

I think it works by getting your ID and bank/paypal details, then using that to hijack and empty your accounts before moving onto the next victim using your ID to reassure the mark that you're legit.

Edited by judas on Wednesday 27th August 15:59

[rehab71]

judas said:

Had an interesting new twist of the car buying scam today. Received a text from a non-UK number (red flag number 1) asking me to email further details and photos of my car to an email address. I figured it would be a scam but sent a reply asking for confirmation that this was required. Got the following response:

scammer said:

Hi There, Thanks for your email. I really want to buy your car as i need it on my arrival to the UK. Will be travelling from France and will be there in the next few days. If you can wait a few days i will pay your asking price in cash. I can pay 15% deposit by PayPal or Bank transfer so that you can hold it for me as i love it in all aspects. My bank here in France will lend me the funds and they are requesting for two separate documents to get the money cleared to me.

I will be needing :
- a copy of the registration certificate or Receipts/Invoices
and front and back copy of your driver's license, or ID
Plus documents such as MOT, Road tax disc, insurance certificate, receipt or anything similar showing your name and address same as on the v5
I need the documents for my bank. (they need the requested documents to lend me the cash).

The loan has been approved but bank needs to see what i am paying for because with all this scams in the UK now they are careful when giving loan as most of the times people are loosing the funds shortly after.

P.S : See attached my documents just to prove that i am a genuine buyer and want to purchase.

On arrival of the requested documents i can do 15% by PayPal or Bank transfer at your convenience. I have a farm & garden machinery export firm in Bristol myself but had a few months holiday in France and its easier for us to get a loan for a car here.

Thank you,
Daniel Guillaume

The attached 'proof' of identity was a photo of a driving licence for Daniel Guillame - presumably to last poor sap to respond to the request for documents in paragraph 2.

Everything about it stinks to high heaven, but presumably enough people fall for it to be worthwhile. I was going to reply to string them along, but I can't even be arsed to do that.

ETA: if anyone else wants to have a play with them: [e-mail] or [phone] (a Spanish number, despite claiming to be in France)

Edited by judas on Wednesday 27th August 15:53

Give the details to the guys at http://www.419eater.com, they'll have some fun.

[marshalla]

Once they have a copy of a licence, they can use it as "proof of ID" (or, as I prefer to call it = "proof that I can get a copy of a piece of paper or plastic") for another scam - e.g.

http://cardealermagazine.co.uk/forum/index.php?/to...

[Spare tyre]

I sometimes just reply with wrong but credible info, if every did this they would never be able to scam as many people as they will to busy with all the dodgy but credible info