I want an MX-5!
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LukeR94

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2,218 posts

171 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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I have been thinking about getting an MX-5 MK1, In 1.8 S Guise.

First things first

I cannot insure a Eunos(Import) so thats a no go, the car will be a second car and im not fussy on colour, I will be doing all the work on the car myself(im no mechanic but im hoping I will be able to teach myself a lot, im mechanically minded however).
The 1.6 is more expensive on insurance for me but still bareable, so thats an option, The car will be a weekend car, and I will be hopefully going to take it on the occaisional trackday.

What sort of a budget do I need for a decent MK1 MX-5 UK car thats not rusty, and will be abused, if I crash it on a trackday im not going to cry myself to sleep at the though of losing a lot of money, I will get tuition before heading on track though.

I Was thinking around £1000 for the car(again im expecting a tatty mess, but I want it relativly rust free) then £600 for everything else, (Tyres, LSD, Bucket, Harness) things like coilovers will come later on.

Am I mad, do I need a bigger budget?



Edited by LukeR94 on Thursday 4th September 10:42

JDMDrifter

4,063 posts

195 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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1st thing - Rust. Its gonna be very hard to find a decent car for that price.

What i would do is try and find a car with the parts fitted. I have recently bought a Mk2 1.8s with BC coilovers and a few other bits for £1150. The car has a tiny bit of rust but other than that its solid.

Try mx5 forums and theres also an MX5 buy and sell facebook group, pretty useful to find a car with good base mods smile

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

191 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Why can't you insure a Eunos? Would recommend greenlight as they don't charge extra for mods. Admiral charged me £200 for adding a rollbar when I was 22. Greenlight require you to be over 25 I think though.

The main difference is the LSD (ignoring all the fancy electric switches/AC if it's going to be a track car). Changing the diff over is a big job, particularly if you've only got axle stands.

However, with a Eunos it's much easier to find a less rusty car. Every single bolt on my UK 10AE was rusted on and snapped before coming out. An oxy torch was even required to loosen some parts.

Difference between the 1.6 and 1.8 is personal preference. I prefer the locking diff on the 1.8. Some prefer the reviness of the 1.6.

TheVole

556 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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I did exactly this in August 2012.


Don't.




Like you, I couldn't get insurance on a Eunos (I was only 18) so I went for a 1995 1.8 iS UK car. It cost me £1125, and it looked rust free. I'd read everything I could find on where to check for rust, duly checked, and came away happy.


The roof started leaking in the winter (it had a receipt for a recently fitted new one from Mazda). The airbag light came on and would not go off no matter what was done. I just lived with it.

The gearbox started making a whining/bearing-y type noise of death, so I took it to a Mazda specialist who told me it was the clutch release bearing, and that it would be fine until I got the clutch replaced.

About 2 months later, the gearbox destroyed itself and left me with only 2 gears, 4th and reverse. That was a fun drive home! So I sold it as spares and bought my current car. To add insult to financial injury, the guy I sold it to uncovered a load of badly repaired, lazily undersealed rust in the floor!



Would I have another mk1 MX-5? Oh yes. When it worked, I loved it. Utterly brilliant fun to drive. Cannot recommend it enough.


Would I have another mk1 MX-5 at this price point? Nope. Too much aggro and too much possibility of getting a moneypit.


My advice is save your money (and generate some NCB) in whatever you drive now, and buy a mk1 in a year or two years' time when you've got more cash to throw at it.



Hope this helps smile


Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

295 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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I bought my MX5 for £1500 with coil-overs, hydraulic handbrake and a cage.

Just 7 years later, having only managed three seasons of various drifting championships and another 4 years of autotests and drift practice days, it totally fell to bits. Maybe it would have lasted longer without the turbo, or not being driven all winter.

Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't.

LukeR94

Original Poster:

2,218 posts

171 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Thanks guys, not going to rush it!




MikeOxlong

3,114 posts

219 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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My Eunos is really showing it's age at the moment. In 2 years from a relatively tidy example it's turned into a money pit, and I'm quite fastidious with my maintenance too.
I think a lot of them are now becoming enthusiasts cars to tinker with and drive when the sun is shining. Mine is going off the road and into my garage where I can restore it in my own time.

LukeR94

Original Poster:

2,218 posts

171 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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[quote=bicycleshorts]Why can't you insure a Eunos? [quote]

Due to my age mainly.

Its a shame because I would rather have a Eunos.

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

191 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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LukeR94 said:
Due to my age mainly.

Its a shame because I would rather have a Eunos.
Really? The likes of Admiral etc. insured me at 22 on one. Admittedly it was more expensive, but only a couple of hundred quid (i.e. less than the cost of a Torsen LSD).

LukeR94

Original Poster:

2,218 posts

171 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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bicycleshorts said:
LukeR94 said:
Due to my age mainly.

Its a shame because I would rather have a Eunos.
Really? The likes of Admiral etc. insured me at 22 on one. Admittedly it was more expensive, but only a couple of hundred quid (i.e. less than the cost of a Torsen LSD).
Yeah its only £600 for a UK 1.8, about £900 for a 1.6, a Eunos is £1800.


MG CHRIS

9,322 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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LukeR94 said:
bicycleshorts said:
LukeR94 said:
Due to my age mainly.

Its a shame because I would rather have a Eunos.
Really? The likes of Admiral etc. insured me at 22 on one. Admittedly it was more expensive, but only a couple of hundred quid (i.e. less than the cost of a Torsen LSD).
Yeah its only £600 for a UK 1.8, about £900 for a 1.6, a Eunos is £1800.
I had an eunos 1.6 when I was 19 just over 1k from admiral will never use them again but they were the cheapest. Now 21 got a mint mk1 1,8 vr ltd spec b with all the options from japan and a few choice mods by me insurance £600.

danjama

5,728 posts

172 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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Some good ones pop up on driftworks now and again. Keep your eyes on there.

Osinjak

5,453 posts

151 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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You can have my Mk1 for a bag of sand, it's got to go in the next four weeks or so. I was going to track it but not sure if I can be arsed to be honest as it means having 3 cars and I really don't need the expense!

Edited by Osinjak on Friday 5th September 00:31

DAN TEMPLE

26 posts

145 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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Buy one you like and set aside some cash for a respray to get rid of the rust spots. The Mrk 1 is a great car, even better with a hard top for some reason - gives the sense of being in a 70s car chase (again probably just me). Either way just get one you won't be disappointed.

Leptons

5,493 posts

206 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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Don't bother they're crap. It's just some pistonheads joke that got out of hand, like the bible.

Stuart70

4,163 posts

213 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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Leptons said:
Don't bother they're crap. It's just some pistonheads joke that got out of hand, like the bible.
What was the pistonheads joke about the bible?

LukeR94

Original Poster:

2,218 posts

171 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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Osinjak said:
You can have my Mk1 for a bag of sand, it's got to go in the next four weeks or so. I was going to track it but not sure if I can be arsed to be honest as it means having 3 cars and I really don't need the expense!

Edited by Osinjak on Friday 5th September 00:31
PM details please.

Is it rust free?

007 VXR

64,187 posts

217 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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Stuart70 said:
Leptons said:
Don't bother they're crap. It's just some pistonheads joke that got out of hand, like the bible.
What was the pistonheads joke about the bible?
It's all true ? hehe

Osinjak

5,453 posts

151 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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LukeR94 said:
PM details please.

Is it rust free?
PM sent.