Corroded bolts on MK1 Focus
Corroded bolts on MK1 Focus
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focusdriver

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25 posts

173 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Can anyone tell me the size/type of the bolt or nut that is marked by the arrow in the photo? There's 2 of them. The photo is the rear underside view of my focus. Can they be replaced using axle stands and a jack or is it a garage job only?



Edited by focusdriver on Saturday 6th September 02:30


Edited by focusdriver on Saturday 6th September 02:31

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

234 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Ask ford as they will be a ford only part

But why replace them?

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
Ask ford as they will be a ford only part

But why replace them?
Agree here - they'll be dirt cheap from Ford, and you know you've got the right bits!

I'm assuming OP needs to change the rear springs?

Clarkrally

2 posts

145 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Most likely the bolts will be seized into the bush, the only way is to cut them out and replace the bush in the arm, or just replace the complete arm and refit with never seez and new bolts, nuts and washers from ford. Then get yourself onto www.alignmycar.co.uk and find someone local to do a full 4 wheel alignment.

focusdriver

Original Poster:

25 posts

173 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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They need replacing because they look like they're going to break or snap off any time. That's actually not my car but my previous tdci. The bolts on my car are a lot worse than in the photo. I will try a ford dealer or a scrap yard. Thanks.

BritishRacinGrin

26,538 posts

190 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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They aren't going to snap. Don't bother unless the bushes need doing. Bolts on a car in a scrap yard will almost certainly be rusty too.

steveo3002

11,209 posts

204 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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yeah be aware you'l be getting into lots more work once theyve snapped off and siezed in the bush

dont be buying em from a scrap yard - you want new ones

k-ink

9,070 posts

209 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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It amazes me car companies think it worthwhile to screw their customers by not fitting stainless steel bolts throughout. The first job to tackle on a restoration!

J4CKO

46,839 posts

230 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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k-ink said:
It amazes me car companies think it worthwhile to screw their customers by not fitting stainless steel bolts throughout. The first job to tackle on a restoration!
How many customers care ?

Most bolts like the OP has shown will never get undone in the life of the car, most Mk1 Focus's are getting near the end of their useful lives, I am sure most customers would rather pay less for the car rather than a bit extra for stuff they will never need to see.

I am sure home restorers, mechanics and anyone else that wields a spanner would appreciate it but where would the fun of PlusGas, Heat, skinned knuckles, rounded bolts and swearing come from ?

SV8Predator

2,102 posts

195 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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k-ink said:
It amazes me car companies think it worthwhile to screw their customers by not fitting stainless steel bolts throughout.
Do you live on a different planet or some parallel universe? Screw their customers?


t400ble

1,804 posts

151 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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They do look like a state, but never seen on break.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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J4CKO said:
k-ink said:
It amazes me car companies think it worthwhile to screw their customers by not fitting stainless steel bolts throughout. The first job to tackle on a restoration!
How many customers care ?

Most bolts like the OP has shown will never get undone in the life of the car, most Mk1 Focus's are getting near the end of their useful lives, I am sure most customers would rather pay less for the car rather than a bit extra for stuff they will never need to see.

I am sure home restorers, mechanics and anyone else that wields a spanner would appreciate it but where would the fun of PlusGas, Heat, skinned knuckles, rounded bolts and swearing come from ?
Stainless bolts wouldn't be much better for most things... Plus they're quite a bit more expensive to spec up for suspension components etc.

P I Staker

3,308 posts

186 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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If it ain't broke don't fix it.

You don't need to worry about the bolts!

Crafty_

14,128 posts

230 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Lets just keep in mind that they aren't just some random bolt that you can get at B&Q, they will have been designed specifically for the purpose, the material the result of metallurgy studies etc.

Stainless steel has different properties, its not often recommended for stress areas such as suspension.

OP leave the bolts alone, just because they look rusty doesn't mean they are dangerous or are going to fail. If the bushes are knackered, fair enough buy some new bolts from Ford - you're wasting your time in scrapyards.

Athlon

5,895 posts

236 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Clarkrally said:
Most likely the bolts will be seized into the bush, the only way is to cut them out and replace the bush in the arm, or just replace the complete arm and refit with never seez and new bolts, nuts and washers from ford. Then get yourself onto www.alignmycar.co.uk and find someone local to do a full 4 wheel alignment.
This is the correct reply.

focusdriver

Original Poster:

25 posts

173 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Here are the actual pictures of the bolts from my car. The photo in the first post was showing my old car.







I'm quite surprised with a lot of people saying leave them alone or it won't break. They are not surface rusted but actually corroded and I doubt they can be taken off with a socket set, like the old rear anti roll bar links which needed the angle grinder! I'll get an opinion from a garage/mechanic and won't attempt to replace them myself but in the meantime will keep an eye on them. Thanks for all the input.

BritishRacinGrin

26,538 posts

190 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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They are not going to break. Find something else to worry about!

Regarding stainless, stainless fixings are inferior to steel in this application.

Mave

8,217 posts

245 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Edited by Mave on Sunday 7th September 08:45

V8covin

10,201 posts

223 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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They're made of steel and exposed to the elements,they're bound to be rusty.
However the parts that you can't see will be fine,they're what,half an inch thick,they won't rust through matey

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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V8covin said:
They're made of steel and exposed to the elements,they're bound to be rusty.
However the parts that you can't see will be fine,they're what,half an inch thick,they won't rust through matey
This. They may be impossible to undo cleanly, but that doesn't mean they're at the point of failure. The mounting point will rust away before the bolts!