Yes really, another car tax change question

[Speed Badger]

Please forgive me, I'm not being dense and I understand the new tax changes apart from one issue that isn't explained on the DVLA website.

If you sell your car, does the tax become void from [A] the moment you sign the 'yes I am the new keeper' box, [B] from when the owner notifies the DVLA (will there be a new online service to click 'I am not the registered keeper anymore, please refund my tax?), or [C] when you receive the logbook back saying 'hooray, you're the new keeper?

Depending on the answer, you may either have to tax the vehicle immediately, when you get home, or you may have a couple of weeks grace so to speak, where they are waiting to receive the logbook from the seller and processing the keeper change.

[shake n bake]

To avoid all sorts of legal nonsense I'd have thought it's the moment the day the new owner takes possession of the car. No he said she said stuff that way. You buy it, you tax it.

[TooMany2cvs]

Speed Badger said:

Please forgive me, I'm not being dense and I understand the new tax changes apart from one issue that isn't explained on the DVLA website.

If you sell your car, does the tax become void from [A] the moment you sign the 'yes I am the new keeper' box, [B] from when the owner notifies the DVLA (will there be a new online service to click 'I am not the registered keeper anymore, please refund my tax?), or [C] when you receive the logbook back saying 'hooray, you're the new keeper?

Depending on the answer, you may either have to tax the vehicle immediately, when you get home, or you may have a couple of weeks grace so to speak, where they are waiting to receive the logbook from the seller and processing the keeper change.

The correct answer is "B.5". Once DVLA process the keeper change, which is what triggers the printing and posting of your new V5C.

[marshalla]

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2014/26/schedu... contains the answer in 6.3.f

Finance Act 2014 Schedule 19 said:

6(1)Section 19 (rebates) is amended as follows.
(2)In subsection (1), for the words from the beginning to “receive” substitute “If any of the rebate conditions is satisfied in relation to a vehicle in respect of which a vehicle licence is in force, the relevant person is entitled to receive (by way of rebate of duty paid on the licence)”.
(3)For subsection (3) substitute—
“(3)The rebate conditions are as follows—
(a)the vehicle has been stolen and the Secretary of State has been notified of that by the relevant person,
(b)the vehicle has been destroyed and the Secretary of State has been notified of that by the relevant person,
(c)a nil licence for the vehicle has been issued in accordance with regulations under section 22,
(d)a qualifying application for a vehicle licence for the vehicle has been received by the Secretary of State,
(e)the vehicle is neither used nor kept on a public road and the particulars and declaration required to be furnished and made by regulations under section 22(1D) have been furnished and made in relation to it in accordance with the regulations,
(f)the vehicle has been sold or disposed of and the particulars prescribed by regulations under section 22(1)(d) have been furnished in relation to it in accordance with the regulations, or
(g)the vehicle has been removed from the United Kingdom with a view to its remaining permanently outside the United Kingdom and the Secretary of State has been notified of that by the relevant person.”

So, I guess if we follow the usual PH rule about the Interpretation Act, the VED disc becomes invalid a few days after the V5 is posted.

[V8forweekends]

I really really thought there was nothing left to say on this - however it does occur that this should cut down on the amount of arguing about notification to DVLA. If there's the incentive of a refund of VED, former keepers might be more inclined to chase up the DVLA when they or Royal Mail mess up. At the moment we have the ridiculous situation where DVLA say we are supposed to hassle them if they don't send us a confirmation they've received the V5c, and our learned friends can't make a consistent decision about whether putting a stamp on and sending the thing is enough to prevent us getting fined - sometimes it is. sometimes it isn't, depending on the legal postcode lottery.

[mgtony]

So at the same time of notifying the DVLA of the sale of the car and requesting the RFL refund, will you be able to fill in the new owners details and not have to send the paperwork in the post? As mentioned, that will cut out all the lost post and the risk of them claiming they never received it.