Is a 1.6 too much?
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Fraser08

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7 posts

145 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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So I'm planning on buying my first car, Ford Fiesta Zetec S (1.6). I learnt in a 1.6 Baker Street Mini Cooper and could comfortably control it and felt it was just right. My parents feel a 1.6 is too much for a first car however I feel differently. I can imagine you will be thinking about insurance but its only group 7 which is amazing! Shocked me as well. Anyway what do people think of this car and engine size.

Fraser08

Original Poster:

7 posts

145 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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So I'm planning on buying my first car, Ford Fiesta Zetec S (1.6). I learnt in a 1.6 Baker Street Mini Cooper and could comfortably control it and felt it was just right. My parents feel a 1.6 is too much for a first car however I feel differently. I can imagine you will be thinking about insurance but its only group 7 which is amazing! Shocked me as well. Anyway what do people think of this car and engine size.

Daston

6,152 posts

233 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Any car is OK for a learner, its not the car thats the issue its the nut behind the wheel tongue out

My first car was a 95 Rover mini 1.3, was great nice and easy to park, easy to work on and taught me a bit about mechanical stuff smile

Buzz Lightyear

73 posts

145 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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My first car was a 1.2 Corsa.

Hated it and bought a 2.0 Fiesta ST about 2 months after as I wanted more power.

It can be safer to have a quicker car so when you try and overtake stuff you will get past safely rather than a close call.

Fraser08

Original Poster:

7 posts

145 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Yeh I suppose its all about the driver. Primary use of the car is to get to university and work and the obvious extras of having a car. Quite a sensible person so feel its a great first car!

schmalex

13,616 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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The accelerator isn't an on / off switch!

A 1.6, driven sensibly is far, far less dangerous than a 1.0 driven badly

Bill

58,694 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Buzz Lightyear said:
It can be safer to have a quicker car so when you try and overtake stuff you will get past safely rather than a close call.
Er...

vinnie01

863 posts

149 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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schmalex said:
The accelerator isn't an on / off switch!

A 1.6, driven sensibly is far, far less dangerous than a 1.0 driven badly
its got enough go to overtake safely aswell. Overtaking in a 1.0 is somewhat terrifying

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

197 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Buzz Lightyear said:
It can be safer to have a quicker car so when you try and overtake stuff you will get past safely rather than a close call.
You've not been driving long, have you?

Buzz Lightyear

73 posts

145 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Bill said:
Buzz Lightyear said:
It can be safer to have a quicker car so when you try and overtake stuff you will get past safely rather than a close call.
Er...
When I just passed, I used to get stuck behind some old man in his Jaguar doing 40 mph in the 60. Then when you try and overtake, he speeds up and you don't have the power to get past.

Just having a bigger engine so you can get it done is safer for all.

I'm not suggesting it gives him an accuse to overtake more stuff; but when you're a young lad, well you can't help yourself.

devnull

3,864 posts

187 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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My first car was a 1.6 (astra) and that didn't have enough.

Remember, the car only goes as fast as you plant your right foot!

TheJimi

27,712 posts

273 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Bill said:
Buzz Lightyear said:
It can be safer to have a quicker car so when you try and overtake stuff you will get past safely rather than a close call.
Er...
He does have a point though, albeit not well made.

kambites

71,499 posts

251 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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I don't see why not if you can insure it. My first car was a 1.8 (albeit a less powerful one), weighed less and was RWD and I survived. smile

CallorFold

860 posts

163 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Don't buy based on engine size, buy based on insurance costs.

In many cases, there will be larger (1.6) cars that come up cheaper to insure than a 1.0 or 1.2

BHP is possibly a more relevant figure than engine size too.

skyrover

12,700 posts

234 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Engine size is only one factor and not necessarily what defines the end cost.

My first car had a 2.0 litre engine and rwd, but was cheaper than a corsa to insure

Edited by skyrover on Thursday 11th September 13:26

Buzz Lightyear

73 posts

145 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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CallorFold said:
Don't buy based on engine size, buy based on insurance costs.

In many cases, there will be larger (1.6) cars that come up cheaper to insure than a 1.0 or 1.2

BHP is possibly a more relevant figure than engine size too.
Just to add some actual useful advise rather than getting told of for suggesting more power is safer.

It's all done on statistics. There are cars such as your Corsa's, Fiesta's, Clio's etc. which are often first time cars. As a result, there are a lot more accidents in them. So the likelihood of a Clio having a crash compared to, let's say a Skoda Yeti, is probably ten fold.

The insurance group plays a part, but to my understanding it's a lot more down to how often a particular car is involved in accidents, likelihood of being stolen etc.


skyrover

12,700 posts

234 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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CallorFold said:
BHP is possibly a more relevant figure than engine size too.
Indeed... and also power to weight

A 4.0 litre jeep may well cost less to insure than a 2.3 turbo volvo.

thatdude

2,660 posts

157 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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In a word, No.

I have a 1.6 civic (VTEC Sport ohhh yes)

Fast it is not. But theres enough poke that it does the job for NSL work, and by selecting the right gear (so the tacho needle is above 3500 rpm) there is enough from the engine to perform overtakes safely.

Seriously, you'll be fine.

Bill

58,694 posts

285 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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TheJimi said:
He does have a point though, albeit not well made.
Very badly made. Bits like "try to overtake" and "close call" are a concern imo biggrin

Jasandjules

72,606 posts

259 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Fraser08 said:
So I'm planning on buying my first car, Ford Fiesta Zetec S (1.6). I learnt in a 1.6 Baker Street Mini Cooper and could comfortably control it and felt it was just right. My parents feel a 1.6 is too much for a first car however I feel differently. I can imagine you will be thinking about insurance but its only group 7 which is amazing! Shocked me as well. Anyway what do people think of this car and engine size.
You could drive a 1.0 litre car like a moron and crash and kill everyone on board, including yourself.

You could drive a 2.0 litre car like Miss Daisy in on the backseat and be safe.

As others have said, sometimes having enough power to get around a problem can be a benefit. It can get you both into and out of trouble.

Simply put, drive sensibly and all will be well. Do not try to "impress" your friends when driving. It may be boring but get some fun driving done on tracks etc.