If the shoe were on the other foot...
If the shoe were on the other foot...
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romeogolf

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2,112 posts

149 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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There's a fair amount of dislike towards leases/pcp/car loans here.

So say you've got £1k in your pocket, but you can afford £300 plus fuel each month. You drive around 22k miles each year and, for whatever reason, have absolutely no car right now.

What do you do?

kambites

71,511 posts

251 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Personally, I'd buy a £1k car and stick the £300 a month into a savings account. smile

Sump

5,512 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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romeogolf said:
There's a fair amount of dislike towards leases/pcp/car loans here.

So say you've got £1k in your pocket, but you can afford £300 plus fuel each month. You drive around 22k miles each year and, for whatever reason, have absolutely no car right now.

What do you do?
The dislike is with people pretending to afford what they can't afford.

The only way for them to get into their generic German premium car is having a helping hand with the finances.

IanCress

4,409 posts

196 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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kambites said:
Personally, I'd buy a £1k car and stick the £300 a month into a savings account. smile
But your £1k car only does half the fuel economy of a brand new lease car. If you do enough miles, at some point the lease car is actually saving you money.

I've nothing against leasing, but I don't understand spending £300 per month on a car that's limited to 5k miles. For that mileage i'd happily run a £1k car. And infact, I do.

SturdyHSV

10,443 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Dave Hedgehog

16,340 posts

234 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Sump said:
romeogolf said:
There's a fair amount of dislike towards leases/pcp/car loans here.

So say you've got £1k in your pocket, but you can afford £300 plus fuel each month. You drive around 22k miles each year and, for whatever reason, have absolutely no car right now.

What do you do?
The dislike is with people pretending to afford what they can't afford.

The only way for them to get into their generic German premium car is having a helping hand with the finances.
what utter drivel

if you can afford the monthly payments you can afford it

timetex

688 posts

178 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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MX-5

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valiant

14,211 posts

190 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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kambites said:
Personally, I'd buy a £1k car and stick the £300 a month into a savings account. smile
You'll probably be needing that £300 a month to keep a £1000 car going for 22000 miles a year!

swakelin91

118 posts

187 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Sump said:
romeogolf said:
There's a fair amount of dislike towards leases/pcp/car loans here.

So say you've got £1k in your pocket, but you can afford £300 plus fuel each month. You drive around 22k miles each year and, for whatever reason, have absolutely no car right now.

What do you do?
The dislike is with people pretending to afford what they can't afford.

The only way for them to get into their generic German premium car is having a helping hand with the finances.
That is dependant on your idea of affordability though. One person will say they can afford the product via finance, whereas another will say they can only afford it by paying in cash. Neither person is wrong, and the argument comes from different personal situations.

mike-r

1,539 posts

221 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Dave Hedgehog said:
if you can afford the monthly payments you can afford it
Seems like famous last words.

unpc

2,998 posts

243 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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I'm firmly in the buying outright camp. £1000 buys you a surprising amount of car. The fuel economy argument is hogwash. There's plenty of economical cars at this price.

I'm not anti leasing by any means but I suspect most people get into it to get the latest shiny bauble without realising they never actually own it.

CarAbuser

712 posts

154 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Dave Hedgehog said:
what utter drivel

if you can afford the monthly payments you can afford it
Until the credit card lifestyle catches up with you!

kambites

71,511 posts

251 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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IanCress said:
kambites said:
Personally, I'd buy a £1k car and stick the £300 a month into a savings account. smile
But your £1k car only does half the fuel economy of a brand new lease car. If you do enough miles, at some point the lease car is actually saving you money.
I've nothing against leasing, but I don't understand spending £300 per month on a car that's limited to 5k miles. For that mileage i'd happily run a £1k car. And infact, I do.
I don't think fuel economy has improved that much. You can get a perfectly good car for £1k which will do 60mpg on the motorway.

I can see the appeal of leasing, but I can't see myself ever doing it.

frumpytrickle

245 posts

147 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Invest your thousand, a few months down the line buy your ride outright.

Sump

5,512 posts

197 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Dave Hedgehog said:
Sump said:
romeogolf said:
There's a fair amount of dislike towards leases/pcp/car loans here.

So say you've got £1k in your pocket, but you can afford £300 plus fuel each month. You drive around 22k miles each year and, for whatever reason, have absolutely no car right now.

What do you do?
The dislike is with people pretending to afford what they can't afford.

The only way for them to get into their generic German premium car is having a helping hand with the finances.
what utter drivel

if you can afford the monthly payments you can afford it
No, let's say you suddenly lose your job. Can you afford it then without digging into savings or what not? Probably not.

The chap who can afford it merely sells the car and moves on.

AClownsPocket

899 posts

189 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Sump said:
The dislike is with people pretending to afford what they can't afford.

The only way for them to get into their generic German premium car is having a helping hand with the finances.
Probably sums up my current scenario. I pootled around in second hand cars for years, convincing myself that the £1000 odd per year on maintenance plus the insurance, tax ect was better than paying for a new car.

Now I pay one amount for a new car which includes a warranty and my servicing. For what it costs in my pocket each month, I'm happy with a lot less hassle.

And I don't pretend to be able to afford it, I make the payments each month, so yes I can afford it.

Sump said:
No, let's say you suddenly lose your job. Can you afford it then without digging into savings or what not? Probably not.

The chap who can afford it merely sells the car and moves on.
Not sure how thats different to having a mortgage.


Edited by AClownsPocket on Thursday 25th September 15:35

kambites

71,511 posts

251 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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AClownsPocket said:
Not sure how thats different to having a mortgage.
Houses are slightly different in that you can't buy a perfectly good house for a tenth of the price just because it happens to be second-hand. hehe

Of course anyone who has a mortgage and buys a car with cash has still borrowed money to buy the car because they could have used the money to pay off the mortgage.

shalmaneser

6,449 posts

225 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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frumpytrickle said:
Invest your thousand, a few months down the line buy your ride outright.
st so in 4 months I could buy a car for £1020!?

The extra £300 p/m goes on coke and hookers, obvs.

frumpytrickle

245 posts

147 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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shalmaneser said:
st so in 4 months I could buy a car for £1020!?

The extra £300 p/m goes on coke and hookers, obvs.
Not sure if serious.

soad

34,666 posts

206 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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romeogolf said:
What do you do?
Sign up for the never-never.