French firm Sanef awarded Dartford Crossing charges system

French firm Sanef awarded Dartford Crossing charges system

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robinessex

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11,578 posts

196 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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I didn't know this.

A multi-million pound contract has been awarded to a French company to bring in a quicker system for using the Dartford Crossing.

Sanef will be responsible for operating a free-flow charging system, which is due to come into operation in October next year.

It will mean drivers will not have to stop at barriers to pay the charge, but make payments over the phone, online or by text.

The step forward for the system, designed to free up congestion at the crossing, was announced today.

The £367million contract with Sanef - to design and deliver the new system - is a seven-year deal and includes the opportunity to extend up to a further three years.

Roads minister Stephen Hammond said: "I welcome this contract award which shows the government delivering on its promise to provide improvements that will help traffic flow better at this crucial gateway.

"This will help thousands of drivers who use the crossing every day, and benefit both the local and national economy."



So would making it free like they promised



Nigel Gray, Highways Agency project manager, said: "We are introducing new technology and road layout changes to change the way drivers pay to use the crossing.

"Once it is fully implemented drivers will not have to stop at the barriers, but will pay for their journey remotely.

"This will reduce congestion and ease traffic flow. The contract covers the development as well as the ongoing operation of the new payment system.

"We remain on track to deliver this improvement in October 2014."

So that's all right then

Edited by robinessex on Friday 26th September 19:42

mondeoman

11,430 posts

281 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Liars, one and all.

surveyor

18,371 posts

199 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Leaving aside the charging issue, the method will be superb. Works really well in Ireland.

Now what would be nice is if all of the major toll routes, such as Humber Bridge, and the M4 bridge to Wales could sort themselves out so they can all work this way and on a single account.

I suspect that this may be a pipe dream, judging how long it took for them to accept cards.....

cb31

1,239 posts

151 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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robinessex said:
Nigel Gray, Highways Agency project manager, said:
"This will reduce congestion and ease traffic flow. The contract covers the development as well as the ongoing operation of the new payment system.
I've got a good idea, just remove the tolls like they promised once the bridge was paid for. No congestion and no costs or contracts. No brown envelopes or seats on the board either though I suppose.

mattshiz

461 posts

156 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Idiot question... when they say its a £367million contract, who's paying the £367m? Sanef or us?

surveyor

18,371 posts

199 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Apparently it's no longer a toll....

Toll charges were collected at the crossing until 2003 when the cost for constructing the QEII Bridge and the tunnels had been fully re-paid. A road user charge was introduced in 2003 to manage the high demand for use of the Crossing. Parliament agreed the powers for the charging regime in the Transport Act 2000.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dart-charge-dar...

Motorrad

6,811 posts

202 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Thieves and liars. It was meant to be free. S.

blade7

11,311 posts

231 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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cb31 said:
I've got a good idea, just remove the tolls like they promised once the bridge was paid for. No congestion and no costs or contracts. No brown envelopes or seats on the board either though I suppose.
They don't make brown envelopes big enough.

Quattromaster

2,989 posts

219 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Well it's October 2014 next Weds, somehow I think the target has been missed, surprise surprise.

TLandCruiser

2,826 posts

213 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Who were the to other companies that bid for it? Its a shame its a french company and not a UK one frown

Snollygoster

1,538 posts

154 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Sanef charged me a fortune for my tolls this year. A £90 direct debit was taken for what I would consider "light" usage compared to usual years at half the cost. Bloody French.

surveyor

18,371 posts

199 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Quattromaster said:
Well it's October 2014 next Weds, somehow I think the target has been missed, surprise surprise.
Now end of nov.

DrDeAtH

3,650 posts

247 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Surely the French have no need to interfere with this. The UK gov could manage it via the HA. Or am I being silly¿

mattdaniels

7,358 posts

297 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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cb31 said:
I've got a good idea, just remove the tolls like they promised once the bridge was paid for.
They have.
Sorry if you missed the memo, but there is no Dartford toll.
I know you still have to stop at a barrier and toss money in a bucket or pay the nice lady or buy a tag in advance, but you're not paying a toll but paying a charge.
It's completely 100% different you see.

Untalented82

42 posts

136 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Pretty certain they have been awarded the contract to run the tolls for the upcoming "Mersey Gateway" along with Samsung to build the thing!

Hainey

4,381 posts

215 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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The chances of a UK company being awarded a similar contract in France?

Yeah right...

Bullett

11,039 posts

199 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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£52million per year?

What exactly does this buy? It's certainly not going to cost that to run some electronic toll booths.


surveyor

18,371 posts

199 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Bullett said:
£52million per year?

What exactly does this buy? It's certainly not going to cost that to run some electronic toll booths.
No booths.

anonymous-user

69 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Everybody should boycott it. That'll teach them.

mygoldfishbowl

4,038 posts

158 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Old story by about a year.

Sanef are 52% owned by Abertis who are Spanish.

Abertis also own 25% of RMG (a consortium of AMEC, McAlpine, Brown and Root and Dra­ga­dos)

Abertis are already here. http://www.abertis.com/europe/var/lang/en/idm/337

Do I believe the crossing charge should be abolished? Absolutely.