RE: Shed Of The Week: Toyota Celica
RE: Shed Of The Week: Toyota Celica
Friday 10th October 2014

Shed Of The Week: Toyota Celica

A well maintained and beautifully presented Celica has put a spark back into Shed's trousers. Crikey



Next time you're out on a drive, check the windscreens of vehicles coming towards you (quite literally coming towards you, if you're driving anywhere near Shed's local at chucking-out time). Fully nine days after it became legal to un-display VED discs, public takeup - or lack of it - of this liberalising concession by the Gummint has been minimal. On a 20-mile journey through Wiltshire yesterday, Shed counted just two naked screens.

190,000 miles you say? Really?
190,000 miles you say? Really?
Shed's theory about our strange reluctance to grab a slice of yooman rights pie is that the average British motorist likes a visual reminder of when to start panicking about not being able to find the next tranche of VED moolah. For the used car buyer, however, that little paper circle meant something else: a tax holiday from the time of purchase to a point a few weeks after the end of the month date proudly emblazoned thereon.

Given the fact that unused VED time is now only worth money to the current owner, rather than to the next one (who must now re-tax his 'new' car from scratch), it seems only sensible to remove the 'must be taxed' pre-condition of Shedliness. This is all a bit of a shame, as there would have been a six-month tax holiday on today's sub-£1K offering, this rather splendid Gen 5 Toyota Celica GT ST182. Ah well, them's (not) the breaks.

If you do end up buying this week's Shed, as Alfa Al did with last week's Alfa 145 Cloverleaf, you'll have to content yourself with the knowledge that you've bagged not just one of the most sweetly-styled warm coupes to come out of Japan, but also a lovely example of the same. Which is quite a nice compensation.

Mmm, 90s Japanese interiors
Mmm, 90s Japanese interiors
Old cars are always a risk, especially in this country, where Mother Nature and local councils do their collective best to ruin them. Getting a good feeling about a cheap old motor is an increasingly rare event for Shed nowadays, but sometimes he still experiences a vague stirring in the loinal area. Seeing this Toyota has put a spark back into his trousers.

Look at its backstory. Mature owner has had it for ten years, kids have grown up so he doesn't need it any more, car is totally unbarried with original wheels and genuine Toyota options, and is proof - if any were needed - that if you're prepared to follow a maintenance schedule, like we're all supposed to, mileage is literally just a number. The biggest problem the next owner will likely have will be convincing admirers that it really has done 190K: from this distance, it looks like you could knock the nought off that and still have folk believing you. Even at the full asking price of £800 it seems like your actual bargin. And look! It's even got pop-up headlamps! Can it get any better?

Not a GT-Four but rather intriguing nonetheless
Not a GT-Four but rather intriguing nonetheless
Well, yes, there's more than a dab of motorsports heritage, harking back to the glory days of the 1990s when Carlos Sainz and Juha Kankkunen were chucking WRC GT-Fours around with gay abandon. Probably can't say that, sorry, but never mind that because there's even a soupcon of motorsports controversy from 1995, when Toyota was caught using illegal turbo restrictors in the Rally Catalunya. That led to a one-year ban from the FIA and the confiscation of all the drivers' 1995 points, which was particularly annoying for Kankkunen as he was in good shape for the title at the time. You had to grudgingly admire Toyota as the restrictors were described by FIA president Max Mosley as 'the most sophisticated device I've ever seen in 30 years of motor sports'. Obviously, this was before his by now well documented evening activities became public.

Hell of a driver, Kankkunen. From the passenger seat of a Toyota GB press office Carina, Shed followed him and his TTE team around the GB British Rally of Great Britain, or whatever it was called back then. All Shed remembers from three very cold and wet days are mad dashes between stages punctuated by fleeting glimpses of the Man himself moodily sucking on a fag (probably can't say that either) as he waited, sometimes for up to five minutes, for the unflappable TTE crew to replace his gearbox in a soaking pub car park at two in the morning.

Diligent owner's loss could be your gain
Diligent owner's loss could be your gain
The GT-Fours were 4WD, of course, whereas the stock ST182 you're looking at here is merely front-wheel drive. Not sure it ever had the 173hp claimed in the ad; more like 158hp is Shed's recollection, but that's still plenty for a spirited drive. Anyway, you can't have everything, as the Department For Transport said. In fact, you can't have anything is what they actually said.

Shed has a wheelbarrow load of Weimar Reichsmarks in the corner of a barn somewhere. As a quiet protest against the disappearance of the dear old tax disc, he plans to stick a one million mark note in the windscreen of any vehicle he finds himself in, but only when he runs out of Guinness labels which, by an ironic twist of fate, are now perfectly legal.

Here's the ad.

For sale is my superb Toyota Celica GT ST182.
It is a 1993 2.0i 16v Generation 5 in black.
The condition is extremely good - no dents, no scratches, and the interior is absolutely immaculate.
I have a folder with a wedge of receipts for regular servicing.
I have owned the car for nearly 10 years and love it. Unfortunately, it simply isn't practical now my kids are teenagers, so it has to go.
If you've been considering a classic Gen5 Celica - this is the one you want. You won't be disappointed.
The car is completely standard.
Tax & MOT till end March 2015.
ABS Brakes,Electric Windows, PAS, CD/Radio, FSH, Remote central locking (genuine Toyota accessory), Alarm, Rare front fog lights, Genuine Toyota floor mats. Original (refurbished) Alloy wheels (unused spare 5th alloy).
I am located near Thame, Oxon.

   
   
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LotusEspritTurbo

Original Poster:

1,043 posts

285 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Probably a good buy in a few years time, when it reaches classic status, or maybe convert it to WRC GT-Fours spec, but a grand for it is a bit steep in my opinion.

Edited by LotusEspritTurbo on Friday 10th October 09:32

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I had a feeling it was going to be this when I saw it in the ads yesterday. I was surprised they were this cheap.

If I had the time and interest in them I'd snap it up just to see what the fuss is about. Having said that, is there a fuss about them?

I'll mention Sega Rally now.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Cracking shed! That's two gems in two weeks imo, top shed work.

fwaggie

1,644 posts

230 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I like it.

Now if it was a gen 1 Celica that'd bring back a lot of memories and be more fun (and have more room inside it, and look like a sporty pile of boxes)

GranCab

2,914 posts

176 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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LotusEspritTurbo said:
Probably a good buy in a few years time, when it reaches classic status, or maybe convert it to WRC GT-Fours spec, but a grand for it is a bit steep in my opinion.

Edited by LotusEspritTurbo on Friday 10th October 09:32
It's £800 ... not £1000 ...

MadDog1962

900 posts

192 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Great car. It's a shame you can't buy one new anymore. Another top result Mr Shed.

Sinatra21

125 posts

188 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Owned one of these a few years ago. Great seats(even in the rear) very reliable but not that quick due to their weight. If I remember pre cat cars were 158 bhp whilst post 92 cars were 154 bhp. The engine suited the mr2 rather than the celica. Always hankered after the gt4 wide body version and preferred this shape to the later gen 6 model. Saying that, for the money and to be a little different it would certainly be on my shed list.

Geoffcapes

1,307 posts

194 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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A woman I worked with had a red GT4 Carlos Sainz Limited Edition.

How I lusted after that car. And have done ever since. Awesome bit of kit.

These however, always seemed to be missing something in the excitement area. Could never put my finger on it.
Perhaps it just did everything well. But nothing outstanding.....


Ryvita

732 posts

240 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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LotusEspritTurbo said:
maybe convert it to WRC GT-Fours spec
If you can do that for less than the cost of a real one then I'd be exceptionally impressed; converting fwd to 4wd isn't trivial. smile For example the Fensport build where they put 6th gen ST205 running gear into a 7th gen car. http://www.fensport.co.uk/FensportCars/Celica_GT4_...

For reference though, there's only one ST185 I can find at the moment, so getting rarer. Prices might turn round on GT4's soon, they're been floating around 3-4 for ages.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...


Edited by Ryvita on Friday 10th October 09:50


Edited by Ryvita on Friday 10th October 09:56

only1ian

737 posts

224 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Has shed not learned from his office colleagues a Toyota of this era can look great on the surface but be a rusted nightmare underneath.

Still fortune favours the brave!

marshall100

1,124 posts

231 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I would. Steep, but are the GT4's not coming out of the other side of barry useage?

dufunk

182 posts

153 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I had a 1990 one with the 3SFE engine 130bhp very very reliable engine decent torque but quite slow around 9 secs to 60. Quite a comfy cruiser at times i found this and it could turn heads.


Gandahar

9,600 posts

158 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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The styling has aged very well, Toyota did a good job with this one, the one after was not a good effort, with those round headlights and then got back on song with the last one which still looks fantastic.

Celica, MR2, Supra .... Toyota needs to getting back to having 3 sporty cars again rather than just the GT86.


J4CKO

46,904 posts

230 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I would say that is worth £800 all day long, it looks in superb condition, as the article says it hasn't been barried.

It wont be super fast, but neither will it be slow, sort of a little better than most contemporary hot hatches. What are they late sevens/early eights to sixty ? I remember as a kid, seeing the previous gen Celica, an 86 I think it was going hell for leather against a Golf GTI Sixteen Valve off some lights and it was neck and neck, sounded fantastic and left a properly naughty smell of thrashed engine in the air.

Most of these have been ruined with poor modifications or just trashed, and however robust they are, they are very old now.

Dont think they will ever be super valuable, after all the GT-Four isnt doing that well and that is a bona fide Escort Cosworth/Integrale rival, but it has some charm.

I like old cars in original, good condition as you can kid yourself you are driving a new one back in 1992 or whatever, rather than driving someone elses steaming pile of foetid old rubbish in 2014.


moskvich427

227 posts

205 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Looks like a very honest car.

At £800 it has to be a bargain - it'll never be worth less than that!


dbdb

5,225 posts

203 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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It's a good car for £800 - though I wouldn't want to actually own one.

andrewcliffe

1,548 posts

254 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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The third generation 3S-GE was introduced in 1993 and that was the 173bhp version. You see various different HP quoted usually due to mis-conversion between BHP and PS or the belief they are exactly the same.

Limpet

6,624 posts

191 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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That is lovely.

My cousin bought one last year in far worse nick, for twice what this guy is asking.

Nors

1,291 posts

185 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Given the mileage, that interior looks to have stood up very well!!

Worth that all day long in that condition surely?

Bobdenero

187 posts

225 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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One of the better shape Celicas and love pop up headlights!