RE: Vauxhall Insignia VXR: Spotted
RE: Vauxhall Insignia VXR: Spotted
Friday 10th October 2014

Vauxhall Insignia VXR: Spotted

The lesser spotted fast Vauxhall depreciates its way further into temptation



Each performance sub brand has its own tangible character. The archetypal Audi RS is a 4WD estate, a Honda Type R is (alright, was) all about revs and you would always expect a Renaultsport product to have a wonderfully engaging chassis.

Looks good, even if white is a bit blingy
Looks good, even if white is a bit blingy
But what defines a Vauxhall VXR? The moniker has been applied to everything from Meriva to Monaro, with engines from 1.6-litre four-cylinder turbo to a V8. Some have been really good, some less so. The next VXR product could well be the Astra VXR Extreme, another new departure for the brand as a stripped out and further focused version of an existing car (all VX220s were spartan prior to the VXR before any smart Alecs try to point that out).

So where does that leave the Insignia VXR? It doesn't have the youth appeal of the Corsa or Astra, the oddity value proffered by the MPV derived cars or the sheer hooligan nature of the Holden V8s.

The Insignia has faced two problems since its 2009 launch: the Lotus Carlton and the BMW 335i. As a fast Vauxhall saloon with a turbocharged six-cylinder engine, the comparison with the old Carlton was inevitable despite being very different cars. With the mystique and controversy that still surrounds the Lotus the Insignia would always been seen by some as an inferior imitation.

More power from here now it's out of warranty?
More power from here now it's out of warranty?
But that's a minor aside really compared to the fact that German is the default choice for the buyer after a rapid saloon. As well as the 335i, the Audi S4 presents a fairly compelling case for a fast four-door. Would the Insignia have enjoyed greater sales as a German Opel OPC product?

Overlooking those fairly significant success hurdles for a second, the Insignia is far from a bad car. A few have cited that it doesn't always feel 325hp fast (probably due to a rather porky kerbweight) but there's some clever suspension tech, four-wheel drive, Brembo brakes and adaptive damping. It won't match the 3 Series dynamically but then neither does an S4. It's fast enough, comfortable, refined and just a little bit different. That last point can count for a lot.

Quite cheap now, but it's not stopped yet
Quite cheap now, but it's not stopped yet
Furthermore, like nearly every big and fast saloon, the Insignia VXR has really depreciated. Just over £30K new, this saloon is being privately sold for £13,600 at four years old with 35,000 miles. You can go cheaper still with more miles but remember it will still have money to lose. For a point of reference, this 2010 S4 has more miles than the Vauxhall and is £21K. Even allowing for a higher asking price new and this being a dealer sale that's a fair old premium.

For some the very thought of driving anything with a Vauxhall badge will be anathema; let them overlook it. The Vauxhall Insignia VXR may not be the world's best sports saloon but it surely deserves more recognition as a fast, interesting and affordable performance car.


VAUXHALL INSIGNIA VXR
Engine:
2,792cc V6, turbocharged
Transmission: 6-speed manual, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 325@5,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 321@5,250rpm
MPG: 25
CO2: 268g/km
First registered: 2010
Recorded mileage: 35,000
Price new: £30,995
Yours for: £13,600

See the original advert here.

 

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Al U

Original Poster:

2,394 posts

161 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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You forgot to mention that buying this car also buys you the ability to make everyone move out of your way on the motorway. Whenever I see these on the road, 9/10 times it's an unmarked police car.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I have no snobbery towards Vauxhall, but I've owned and driven enough of them to say that paying god knows how much road tax and tolerating 25mpg to experience the total indifference to detail that General Motors Europe always brings to the party holds little appeal. It also wouldn't so much be the resale value that would concern me so much as finding the one other person in the UK who would actually want to buy it from me when I'm done. I bet when you're selling one for £6k or so you'll get a lot of dhead chavs to content with.

In summary you'd have to be touched in the head to want this over a VXR8 if you have a love of fast Vauxhalls.

Kev T360

366 posts

181 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I like this!

only1ian

737 posts

224 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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The estate version of this VXR is the one that excites me. In the same way an avant s4 is the only way to go with the nearest competition

Edited by only1ian on Friday 10th October 10:55

ianwayne

8,573 posts

298 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I know someone who had one from new. In 2 years, it spent nearly 6 months in total at the dealership because of dashboard fault lights and ECU faults. They got to the point of fitting a new loom after various ECU and sensor changes. He sold it after the warranty ran out but by then it had no faults!

Mind you, it was a quick car when it was running. I liked it but his experience would put me off one.

trashbat

6,310 posts

183 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I've nothing against Vauxhall, and I would have one of these, right after the bunch of other things I'd choose over it.

It doesn't leave me as cold and empty as Volkswagen Group stuff, but it doesn't inspire either, and that opens up the field to pretty much anything going. And then personally, if I'm going to have something that's fairly compromised, in this case mostly in terms of image, I'd rather have something that's a weaker performer but a more rewarding ownership experience.

ManicMunky

715 posts

150 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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They make a nice noise, and are a decent enough place to sit (far better than the previous Vectra), but as other people have said... my cash would go elsewhere before one of these.

Fastchas

2,843 posts

151 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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dme123 said:
I have no snobbery towards Vauxhall, but I've owned and driven enough of them to say that paying god knows how much road tax and tolerating 25mpg to experience the total indifference to detail that General Motors Europe always brings to the party holds little appeal. It also wouldn't so much be the resale value that would concern me so much as finding the one other person in the UK who would actually want to buy it from me when I'm done. I bet when you're selling one for £6k or so you'll get a lot of dhead chavs to content with.

In summary you'd have to be touched in the head to want this over a VXR8 if you have a love of fast Vauxhalls.
Kev T360
I like this!





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pimpchez

900 posts

213 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I have been looking at these for the next step car .

Brisk (to me) and 4wd ,combined with a decent interior and exterior.

Servicing costs aside (125 for the plugs on ebay!,brembo brakes 250 and 20" tyres luckily i get mates rates) i think they will get a incredible buy vs the age when they get to my magical 10k price point.

Although it "seems" a warranty is a must

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

248 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Unloved and unwanted by the dealers, not quite fast enough because of the weight, regarding tuning, hard to actually get a meaningful improvement, and don't go to S*perchips, through the car into limp made constanttly and by their own admission when pushed wasn't finished. (Joke = refund) I would mod the air box as I did and swop the filter, revs better high up the rev range where the power is.

But.....

With good tyres on a wet greasy road, one of the quickest cross country cars I have owned, the weight and suspension help it here.

Fuel consumption = V bad. 16mpg on one memorable 'run' to the east coast.

willisit

2,186 posts

261 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I've always like these, and own a Monaro... but, to compare the Insignia to a Lotus Carlton? Why is that inevitable? I've never thought that; no conversation about them has ever brought that up either, and a friend has a neighbour with one so that was quite often.

Really random!


Pixelpeep7r

9,004 posts

172 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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these are just like lexmark printers.

Yeh you can get it cheaper than other makes, and yes it will be as fast.

but running costs will mean that you will soon regret the purchase.

Just spend a bit more in the first place and you'll have an overall cheaper ride.

soad

34,673 posts

206 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Plenty of depreciation left - still too new for me. wink

DevonPaul

1,746 posts

167 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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There is some appeal, but personally I'd save £6k and spend the money on fuel for this...

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...

in fact, I'm really beginning to regret looking at them again.

chrisemersons

143 posts

173 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Pixelpeep7r said:
these are just like lexmark printers.
Haha yeah and looks about as good as a lexmark printer - in fact i suspect the interior plastics come from the same mould !!

Love those Vauxhall hard scratchy plastics!!!

rossub

5,980 posts

220 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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dme123 said:
It also wouldn't so much be the resale value that would concern me so much as finding the one other person in the UK who would actually want to buy it from me when I'm done.
So true hehe

soad

34,673 posts

206 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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DevonPaul said:
There is some appeal, but personally I'd save £6k and spend the money on fuel for this...

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/v...

in fact, I'm really beginning to regret looking at them again.
Phaeton W12 6.0-litre. You should buy one, chap. yes

Cotic

469 posts

182 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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I drove one of these once. The understeer turned all the hedges magnetic.

jamespink

1,218 posts

234 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Oddball RS said:
Unloved and unwanted by the dealers, not quite fast enough because of the weight, regarding tuning, hard to actually get a meaningful improvement, and don't go to S*perchips, through the car into limp made constanttly and by their own admission when pushed wasn't finished. (Joke = refund) I would mod the air box as I did and swop the filter, revs better high up the rev range where the power is.

But.....

With good tyres on a wet greasy road, one of the quickest cross country cars I have owned, the weight and suspension help it here.

Fuel consumption = V bad. 16mpg on one memorable 'run' to the east coast.
For crying out loud, my M5 does 20 mpg average...

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

248 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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Cotic said:
I drove one of these once. The understeer turned all the hedges magnetic.
Really....? I am surprised, I found it pretty neutral for what it is, was it your first time in a 4x4 car?