Car MOT dilemma
Discussion
Hi,
Thought I would look for opinions on here to help aid my decisions with my car MOT dilemma.
My current car has just passed its MOT but I've had news of things that will need replacing as it will fail on them next year more than likely + a host of things that are non MOT related.
The advisories were;
Both rear suspension arm bushes
CV joint worn but not excessively, checked boot and ok
The non-MOT items were;
Clutch may need replacing in next 12 months (I sort of knew that)
It only just scraped the emissions test (possible new CAT needed)
4 tyres although good now will need replacing in 12 months
Timing belt due in 12 months time
Now you might think get rid, but I quite like the car (good spec and good bodywork). Its just clocked 12 years old and 104,000 miles so not ancient yet but its book value is basically scrap or a few hundred at most with the new MOT.
It's really good on fuel and light on the tyres and since I've owned I haven't replaced a major thing except the tyres, air con regas and minor servicing. I do a fair few miles 16 or 17 k per year so total spend excluding fuel/ins/tax so far in two years is about £1700 including the £1000 I paid for it.
I've been thinking of running it for the next 12 months and trade in or scrap against a newer car poss 7k ish. I could manage the loan repayments reasonably ok but thinking would you spend the estimated £800-900 on something worth far less but on a known quantity and hope to run for another 2 or 3 years?
I agree that other things may come up but most of that would probably be need on another car at some point and add in the loan and interest repayments, I'm not so sure now?
I may have missed things but ask away, thanks for reading.
Thought I would look for opinions on here to help aid my decisions with my car MOT dilemma.
My current car has just passed its MOT but I've had news of things that will need replacing as it will fail on them next year more than likely + a host of things that are non MOT related.
The advisories were;
Both rear suspension arm bushes
CV joint worn but not excessively, checked boot and ok
The non-MOT items were;
Clutch may need replacing in next 12 months (I sort of knew that)
It only just scraped the emissions test (possible new CAT needed)
4 tyres although good now will need replacing in 12 months
Timing belt due in 12 months time
Now you might think get rid, but I quite like the car (good spec and good bodywork). Its just clocked 12 years old and 104,000 miles so not ancient yet but its book value is basically scrap or a few hundred at most with the new MOT.
It's really good on fuel and light on the tyres and since I've owned I haven't replaced a major thing except the tyres, air con regas and minor servicing. I do a fair few miles 16 or 17 k per year so total spend excluding fuel/ins/tax so far in two years is about £1700 including the £1000 I paid for it.
I've been thinking of running it for the next 12 months and trade in or scrap against a newer car poss 7k ish. I could manage the loan repayments reasonably ok but thinking would you spend the estimated £800-900 on something worth far less but on a known quantity and hope to run for another 2 or 3 years?
I agree that other things may come up but most of that would probably be need on another car at some point and add in the loan and interest repayments, I'm not so sure now?
I may have missed things but ask away, thanks for reading.
Hi, its a 2002 (52) Mitsubishi Carisma. Reason of thinking its that its got a good solid engine with me being anal about 6 monthly oil changes, partly due to the mileage I do and that it being partly Japanese they generally have good electrics and the main running gear is pretty simple (no DPF, no DMF, no turbo etc)
if you do a fair few miles a year this makes a reliable car more valuable than an economical car.
Have you thought about leasing? you can get fully maintained lease deals for around £100 a month which includes road tax, servicing, tyres etc
you could lease a new diesel like the civic 1-6diesel which just did 98odd mpg over a tank of fuel in some real world tests.
Keep the snotter, SORN it and work on it in your own time and not have to worry that it won't be road worthy for monday when you need it?
Have you thought about leasing? you can get fully maintained lease deals for around £100 a month which includes road tax, servicing, tyres etc
you could lease a new diesel like the civic 1-6diesel which just did 98odd mpg over a tank of fuel in some real world tests.
Keep the snotter, SORN it and work on it in your own time and not have to worry that it won't be road worthy for monday when you need it?
Routine maintenance items like tyres shouldn't really be factored in on a "keep or bin" discussion. Cambelt is in a similar position but the very long change interval means it's perhaps a bit more relevant, I'll grant you.
So you've got a handful not-particularly-major wear and tear components on a car that's been reliable, if dull. No-brainer to me. Maintain and continue to run.
So you've got a handful not-particularly-major wear and tear components on a car that's been reliable, if dull. No-brainer to me. Maintain and continue to run.
Leasing wouldn't appeal to me I'm afraid. If I was to spend £100+ on a newer car, just knowing that all that money wouldn't be for nothing (I know cars depreciate).
You sort of confirmed my thoughts.
Way of thinking of this is (ha bit of a brainstorm bear with me)
Spend the money to righten it, work through future issues one at a time. Pocket the loan repayments
Scrap/sell current one and get next to nothing. Spend £130-150 per month on a newer car still having to change tyres, cambelts/chains and MOT regardless.
The other option is out of spending £1000 on someone else's discarded 10 year old rubbish which would probably bring a bill half that again over the forthcoming two years.
I treat mine to a decent clean today inside and out and was admiring it, thinking I cant do this!
You sort of confirmed my thoughts.
Way of thinking of this is (ha bit of a brainstorm bear with me)
Spend the money to righten it, work through future issues one at a time. Pocket the loan repayments
Scrap/sell current one and get next to nothing. Spend £130-150 per month on a newer car still having to change tyres, cambelts/chains and MOT regardless.
The other option is out of spending £1000 on someone else's discarded 10 year old rubbish which would probably bring a bill half that again over the forthcoming two years.
I treat mine to a decent clean today inside and out and was admiring it, thinking I cant do this!
Personally I'd spend the very bare minimum on it and run it till next years mot and see what it fails on, whilst saving £100 quid a month, all the stuff is just advisory, you say the cambelt is due in 12 months, wait 12 months till after next years mot, then make a judgement call, you will either have a car worth £500 with 12 months ticket and £1200 in the bank, or £1200 in the bank and scrap value of £150, plenty of money to buy another decent car.
Edited by Jazoli on Sunday 19th October 17:02
To be honest, I wouldn`t worry about any of it for 12mths.
Ignore the advisories, I do and it doesn`t surprise me at all that on each MOT, the same things I was advised to do have disappeared from the advisories list even thought they haven`t been done!
Do the cambelt when it is due or slightly before, don`t worry about the clutch and do the tyres when needed.
Ignore the advisories, I do and it doesn`t surprise me at all that on each MOT, the same things I was advised to do have disappeared from the advisories list even thought they haven`t been done!
Do the cambelt when it is due or slightly before, don`t worry about the clutch and do the tyres when needed.
12 months MOT banked
Tyres if they are say 3mm now or less if want a fresh set to benefit over winter rather than wearing out existing rubber through winter then putting fresh rubber on in summer months...
Cambelt as others have said wait until result of next years MOT- next year could be scrap it in which case you'll have wated £500+ changing it without any need.
You are at a point of running a car until a part wears out and is such a significant cost to change + what else is just down the line that you offload and buy something else -- OR if everything else is fine it does its job reliable then budget for those items (remember cambelt is potentially a once every 3/5/7/10 year cost).
The car owes you nothing so you could think down the lines of car is worth £150 - needs tyres £300 (guessing for a set) so that's 2-3 years motoring, cambelt £500 3-10 years motoring.
Tyres if they are say 3mm now or less if want a fresh set to benefit over winter rather than wearing out existing rubber through winter then putting fresh rubber on in summer months...
Cambelt as others have said wait until result of next years MOT- next year could be scrap it in which case you'll have wated £500+ changing it without any need.
You are at a point of running a car until a part wears out and is such a significant cost to change + what else is just down the line that you offload and buy something else -- OR if everything else is fine it does its job reliable then budget for those items (remember cambelt is potentially a once every 3/5/7/10 year cost).
The car owes you nothing so you could think down the lines of car is worth £150 - needs tyres £300 (guessing for a set) so that's 2-3 years motoring, cambelt £500 3-10 years motoring.
23rdian said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Well, Dutch, but...
I didn't know these were built in the Netherlands? But perhaps designed in Japan?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff