What 4x4, £13k budget
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Looking for a 4x4 for towing a horse box and light off reading.... Fields, dirt tracks etc. Reliability and fuel economy over fashion and speed please.
Have been looking at freelander 2, 3-4 years old and up to approx 40k miles but was hoping the pistonheads massive good suggest alternatives?
Cheers guys
Have been looking at freelander 2, 3-4 years old and up to approx 40k miles but was hoping the pistonheads massive good suggest alternatives?
Cheers guys
A Landcruiser is the answer if you want a 4x4 that is reliable, reasonably economical, good off road and capable of towing a reasonably sized horsebox.
Something like this
Something like this
Discovery 3 - much more pleasant place to be than a Toyota and no less reliable in reality: just a more honest user base...
A decent aftermarket warranty is a prerequisite for ANY full-size 4x4 that's going to see a lot of use, so your shopping list may be curtailed by what you can get that fits within the age/mileage limits that apply.
A decent aftermarket warranty is a prerequisite for ANY full-size 4x4 that's going to see a lot of use, so your shopping list may be curtailed by what you can get that fits within the age/mileage limits that apply.
IroningMan said:
Discovery 3 - much more pleasant place to be than a Toyota and no less reliable in reality: just a more honest user base...
A decent aftermarket warranty is a prerequisite for ANY full-size 4x4 that's going to see a lot of use, so your shopping list may be curtailed by what you can get that fits within the age/mileage limits that apply.
+1. Just don't expect them to be cheap to run, no 3 tonne luxury car is.A decent aftermarket warranty is a prerequisite for ANY full-size 4x4 that's going to see a lot of use, so your shopping list may be curtailed by what you can get that fits within the age/mileage limits that apply.
IroningMan said:
Discovery 3 - much more pleasant place to be than a Toyota and no less reliable in reality: just a more honest user base...
A decent aftermarket warranty is a prerequisite for ANY full-size 4x4 that's going to see a lot of use, so your shopping list may be curtailed by what you can get that fits within the age/mileage limits that apply.
Not sure he's going to get a decent, recent, non starship mileage Disco 3 for £13k A decent aftermarket warranty is a prerequisite for ANY full-size 4x4 that's going to see a lot of use, so your shopping list may be curtailed by what you can get that fits within the age/mileage limits that apply.
wormus said:
IroningMan said:
Discovery 3 - much more pleasant place to be than a Toyota and no less reliable in reality: just a more honest user base...
A decent aftermarket warranty is a prerequisite for ANY full-size 4x4 that's going to see a lot of use, so your shopping list may be curtailed by what you can get that fits within the age/mileage limits that apply.
+1. Just don't expect them to be cheap to run, no 3 tonne luxury car is.A decent aftermarket warranty is a prerequisite for ANY full-size 4x4 that's going to see a lot of use, so your shopping list may be curtailed by what you can get that fits within the age/mileage limits that apply.
That's kind of the point of the Toyota, they keep working all by themselves and you don't need an expensive warranty to achieve this. They are totally different vehicles, the Disco is a ton heavier and horrendously complex whereas the Landcruiser is a simple old-school 4x4 that will keep going forever and do everything you need it to do. For sure the Disco will be a better luxury car but the OPs requirements were towing and light off-roading with an emphasis on reliability and fuel economy. A Disco 3 is neither reliable nor economical.
Not sure the OP really needs a big 4x4.
The smaller ones like the Freelander will deal with a horsebox. Towing limit is 2000kg.
When you start going for the big ones running costs increase hugely.
My XC90 never did more than 34mpg solo and dropped to around 24 towing.
£500 road tax, expensive tyres and servicing and always that niggle that something big was going to go wrong with it.
Luckily nothing did in a year and it was a pleasure to own bar the running costs.
The smaller ones like the Freelander will deal with a horsebox. Towing limit is 2000kg.
When you start going for the big ones running costs increase hugely.
My XC90 never did more than 34mpg solo and dropped to around 24 towing.
£500 road tax, expensive tyres and servicing and always that niggle that something big was going to go wrong with it.
Luckily nothing did in a year and it was a pleasure to own bar the running costs.
Edited by GreatGranny on Tuesday 28th October 12:14
mini1380cc said:
I would say a Pathfinder if looking at Nissan. It will have a much bigger towing load.
I have a Pathfinder, and aside from a clutch and starter motor in 120,000 miles of use it has been absolutely solid. It has a hard life too, off road, dogs, kids long trips to South of France and loads of short school runs. Interior wears well, however £ £500 road tax and 30mpg (35 on Long trips) means it isn't the cheapest to run.
TurboHatchback said:
They are totally different vehicles, the Disco is a ton heavier and horrendously complex whereas the Landcruiser is a simple old-school 4x4 that will keep going forever and do everything you need it to do. For sure the Disco will be a better luxury car but the OPs requirements were towing and light off-roading with an emphasis on reliability and fuel economy. A Disco 3 is neither reliable nor economical.
Land Cruiser D-4D weight 2415 kgDisco 3 weight 2419 kg.
The Disco is a whole 4kg heavier. So where is this extra ton you are talking about?
Edited by plasticpig on Tuesday 28th October 12:47
plasticpig said:
Land Cruiser D-4D weight 2415 kg
Disco 3 weight 2149 kg.
The Disco is a whole 4kg heavier. So where is this extra ton you are talking about?
Umm unless I am missing something in your above post 2415 is heavier than 2149 ? Disco 3 weight 2149 kg.
The Disco is a whole 4kg heavier. So where is this extra ton you are talking about?
And I would have the disco given the choice !!
Phib
We've done close to 400,000 miles in Discos since 1991 towing 2t+ trailers and never had any issues other that standard maintenance. The disco 3 i'm currently driving has done 164000 we've had it since new and its still going strong, returns 27mpg easily with mixed driving and is rally comfortable.
The only people who really slag off Land Rovers are those that have never owned them and go by what they have read once on a forum.
The only people who really slag off Land Rovers are those that have never owned them and go by what they have read once on a forum.
Riff Raff said:
Not sure he's going to get a decent, recent, non starship mileage Disco 3 for £13k
I got a 8 year old HSE auto with 98k for £12k two years ago. Hardly starship miles and it's now close to clocking 130k. It's cost a bit in replacing bushes etc that have worn out with age but it's only ever broken down once due to a worn out starter at 9 years old. I'm now past sorting all the kinks and quirks it has I can now have happy motoring for the next 100k before I would consider giving it another overhaul.
The good thing about the landy community is there are huge parts networks and plenty of good advice and indys to care for them.
We have a great supplier on the Disco3 site for parts, stocks everything you need and the service is superb. Only complaint I've heard from him was a guy was too late to get free wipers with his delivery, so he got a packet of chewits instead.
Freelander 2s are good as well, more car like and economical but still a good landy.
Doesn't suffer from as much wear on parts as the D3.
2 ton towing limit is the only real drawback for most people.
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