How to turn £300 into £3000 in under 2 hours....
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I suppose one has to accept, that when you have owned as many cars as I have, (and passed on prospective big bills to the next owner), Karma is going to come calling and you are going to get hit yourself one day. A £275 major service and MOT on the Navara has, today, turned into a right royal wallet roasting. £2000 in replacement parts to get it through the MOT, plus an additional £1000 for a replacement air conditioning condenser and a (close to complete failure) prop shaft. £3000 - My single biggest bill on any car I have owned - I should have fitted a tow bar to the Aston and bought an Ifor Williams trailer! Still, it is a 125,000 mile truck, so taking a reflective view, and at least I know that it's properly sorted (which wouldn't be the case if I chopped it on another truck with the potential for unknown bills).
I've worked out that over 7000 miles, parts for the first year have come to just shy of 4k. Ignoring replacement tyres, and diesel, and depreciation, and insurance, and tax.... cost per mile over the last 12 months equate to approx. £1.60!! Ouch!
B.J.W said:
My wallet's had a proper bumming today....
Still, it has done 125k miles. Like anything with that mileage, it's potentially going to spit a big bill at you.... Looks like the last owner moved it on at the right time
My mondeo has 127000 on the clock, never spent more than about £100 to get it through the MOT.Still, it has done 125k miles. Like anything with that mileage, it's potentially going to spit a big bill at you.... Looks like the last owner moved it on at the right time
vladcjelli said:
Hainey said:
Navara. Not even with the bargiest of barge poles...
Expand please, so I can pass the bad news on to a friend of ours who's just picked up a 61 plate example.Forewarned is forearmed.
Friend who is a diesel mechanic loves them. They paid his mortgage and then some.
I took a punt because, at the price point I was looking at (circa £8,000), you couldn't find a current gen Hilux that wasn't falling apart at the seams, Rodeo's were as rare as rocking horse deposits, Rangers were around the same price (but less well appointed) and the rear load space on an L200 was not big enough for my kit (plus I've never really liked the looks). When Navara's go wrong they do it with gusto (a google search confirms this), but it appears to happen earlier on in it's life.
I take on board the previous comment ref the Mondeo with a similar mileage. The Nissan is a great truck, but evidently (in my case) a touch fragile. Having said that, there are horror stories across all of the marques (save for the Rodeos which appear to be bomb proof).
I take on board the previous comment ref the Mondeo with a similar mileage. The Nissan is a great truck, but evidently (in my case) a touch fragile. Having said that, there are horror stories across all of the marques (save for the Rodeos which appear to be bomb proof).
Navaras tend to run the big ends or spit there con rods out around 70,000 miles if not sooner. I cant remember if its the earlier ones run the bearings and the later ones spit out rods or the other way about. Some of the earlier models were also prone to serious chassis rust problems while only a couple of years old.
So apart from the o.p all I've read on here is here say, nonsence and 'my mates uncles dad knew a guy....'
Any truck that's been used for it's purpose will need cash throwing at it at some point. Navaras are good trucks, I've sold dozens of them ranging from nearly new to 100000+ miles and years old.
The worst I've seen back was for a set of injectors, no engines hanging out or gone through the bonnet or any other fairy tale some guy heard another bloke say once at their mates wedding.
Any truck that's been used for it's purpose will need cash throwing at it at some point. Navaras are good trucks, I've sold dozens of them ranging from nearly new to 100000+ miles and years old.
The worst I've seen back was for a set of injectors, no engines hanging out or gone through the bonnet or any other fairy tale some guy heard another bloke say once at their mates wedding.
mrf said:
My you do sound like a smug goit...
funnily enough I've been to see several D22 Navaras and every one of them either was on its 2nd or 3rd engine or needed one..., was offered one dirt dirt cheap in need of an engine replacement but warned off by several guys who had had D22s, paid to have the engine rebuilt / replaced and punted them after the same issues reared their heads again...this despite proper attention to servicing, "light" use (i.e. not lugging massive bits of kit around, very rarely if ever towing anything)
And you sound like you have an opinion on every truck out there even though you're looking at early Navaras despite everyone in the world warning you off them? Mixed signals.... funnily enough I've been to see several D22 Navaras and every one of them either was on its 2nd or 3rd engine or needed one..., was offered one dirt dirt cheap in need of an engine replacement but warned off by several guys who had had D22s, paid to have the engine rebuilt / replaced and punted them after the same issues reared their heads again...this despite proper attention to servicing, "light" use (i.e. not lugging massive bits of kit around, very rarely if ever towing anything)
Like I said, here say or googles opinions not actual fact.
For every tale of any vehicle on the net there will be countless others who haven't felt the need to share there opinion as what they have is fine.
shake n bake said:
So apart from the o.p all I've read on here is here say, nonsence and 'my mates uncles dad knew a guy....'
Any truck that's been used for it's purpose will need cash throwing at it at some point. Navaras are good trucks, I've sold dozens of them ranging from nearly new to 100000+ miles and years old.
The worst I've seen back was for a set of injectors, no engines hanging out or gone through the bonnet or any other fairy tale some guy heard another bloke say once at their mates wedding.
You're right, all the warranty claims of thousands of people and an appearance on 'Watchdog' is all fantasy.Any truck that's been used for it's purpose will need cash throwing at it at some point. Navaras are good trucks, I've sold dozens of them ranging from nearly new to 100000+ miles and years old.
The worst I've seen back was for a set of injectors, no engines hanging out or gone through the bonnet or any other fairy tale some guy heard another bloke say once at their mates wedding.
shake n bake said:
So apart from the o.p all I've read on here is here say, nonsence and 'my mates uncles dad knew a guy....'
Any truck that's been used for it's purpose will need cash throwing at it at some point. Navaras are good trucks, I've sold dozens of them ranging from nearly new to 100000+ miles and years old.
The worst I've seen back was for a set of injectors, no engines hanging out or gone through the bonnet or any other fairy tale some guy heard another bloke say once at their mates wedding.
Well best you get out more !! Any truck that's been used for it's purpose will need cash throwing at it at some point. Navaras are good trucks, I've sold dozens of them ranging from nearly new to 100000+ miles and years old.
The worst I've seen back was for a set of injectors, no engines hanging out or gone through the bonnet or any other fairy tale some guy heard another bloke say once at their mates wedding.
Can give you a guys number who had Two D40s both practically lived at the garage , axle , paint and engine problems before they did 70k lots of people in the trade avoid them and not many as work trucks on the big fleets must tell a story ..
As stated earlier, I've been lucky up to this point. I considered the likely part-ex value of the Navara (£4.5k tops), and then factored in the £1.5k needed to get it through the MOT - leaving me with £3k. Taking into account the additional £1.5k spend, I'd have had £4.5k to source a replacement (break even). At that price point there was always the potential for a inheriting a truck that might need money spending on it in the next 12 months. Better the devil you know - so I guess this is one I'm just going to have to suck up. If there is any lesson here (and I'm not slating Navara's because I'm sure there are plenty cars of the same age and mileage that are running trouble free), it's to never over extend yourself and to keep a fighting fund in reserve should something go wrong. I could have bought a truck 12 months ago for £3k more, only to be faced with a similar bill. That would have left me financially exposed - for that I'm taking a reflective view 
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