RE: BMW M5 Touring: Spotted
RE: BMW M5 Touring: Spotted
Tuesday 4th November 2014

BMW M5 Touring: Spotted

Big boot, big engine ... big fuel bills - worth it though for (probably) M's last ever Touring



Ah, the good old days of 2007, when men were men, a 2GB USB drive would set you back £20 but you could buy a litre of petrol and still get change out of a quid. And when BMW's M Division was still trying to sell estate cars.

Single digit mpg in a family estate? Step up!
Single digit mpg in a family estate? Step up!
That's 'trying' as in 'failing', but still - what a car the E61 M5 Touring was. It was the spiritual successor to the E34 M5 wagon, and the only one officially sold in the UK. And as the chaps at M have since moved onto making blinged up expresses like the M6 Gran Coupe the E61 Touring looks set to remain the last of the line. It's certainly hard to think of something that scores as many man-points as a V10-engined estate with 500hp, rear-wheel drive and the ability to move a couple of grandfather clocks.

Of course, it's easy to understand M's decision to stop doing wagons considering the E61's minimal sales. Only 222 right-hookers were made - it fared little better elsewhere - with buyers in this rarefied market segment demonstrating a clear preference for either the traction assurance of a Quattro badge or, more likely, a sod-off massive SUV. And as the M5 estate shares its sister's reputation for both towering running costs and occasional mechanical meltdowns, it's fair to say it remains a brave purchase six years later.

Looks are about the only sensible thing about it
Looks are about the only sensible thing about it
But there's a huge amount to love if your wallet can take it. The V10 engine clatters like a Transit when it's cold, and there are electric toothbrushes with more low-down torque, but boy does it like to rev - pulling to nearly 9,000rpm with a howling soundtrack that can reanimate the recently deceased. Handling is pretty much identical to the saloon: plenty of grip (presuming the tyres are fresh), but an abundance of rear-end slip too if that's what you're in the mood for. It's a comfortable and extremely rapid long-distance tourer with room for four, their luggage and - if you're travelling to a plumbing convention - even the kitchen sink.

Well, it's rapid for a couple of hours at a time, average speeds are always going to suffer as the M5's horrendous thirst drains its 70-litre fuel tank in unfeasibly short periods. Draft a truck going downhill at 56mph and the M5 will manage mid-20s mpg, but you'll be struggling to achieve a real world average that isn't in the mid-teens, and used hard the figure can fall into single figures. The good news is that the lowest number you'll ever see on the average fuel display is 7mpg; but that's only because the system isn't programmed to go any lower.

A nice view, apart from the fuel gauge
A nice view, apart from the fuel gauge
Then there's the small matter of the seven-speed single-clutch SMG automated gearshift. There's no polite way of saying this, so we'll save the swear filter and just say that it's really not very good. Hesitant when left to its own devices, it's jerky even in its fastest mode. You get used to it over time, but only in the same way you acclimatise to dental pain or a leaking roof.

The SMG is also the weakest mechanical link, with a reputation for shredding clutches if used hard and sometimes expensive blow-ups, especially if the previous owner has used the launch control system that BMW admitted it only fitted so that journalists could harvest suitably impressive 0-60 times. Being a 2007 car, this one should have the uprated SMG pump - and the advert's promise the car has been maintained regardless of expense suggests there's a fat folder of invoices to wince over. The Touring's 1,955kg mass means it eats tyres and brakes when used hard; a full set of discs and pads will run you to over £1,500 from a BMW dealer and at least a grand from a specialist.

The Touring commands a modest premium over the vastly more common M5 saloon, but not that much of one. £23,250 looks like a fair price to start negotiating considering the every-box-ticked spec and the optimum colour combination of silver outside and black leather within. For one of the rarest M cars, that's a compelling pricetag. Tempted?


BMW M5 TOURING
Engine:
4,999cc V10
Transmission: 7-speed automated manual, rear-wheel drive, LSD
Power (hp): 507@7,750rpm
Torque (lb ft): 384@6,100rpm
MPG: 18.8
CO2: 361g/km
First registered: 2007
Recorded mileage: 71,000
Price new: £85,000
Yours for: £23,250

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X5TUU

Original Poster:

12,788 posts

218 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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£23k for that seems like a bargain to me ... and I wouldn't fear the fuel bill (but thats coming from a background of a range of petrol hungry engines) ... looks the business, just a shame its silver

On another note, does the article read like Monkey Harris wrote it to anyone else, or is it just me?!

thatguy11

658 posts

154 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Love that it's de-badged, the ultimate stealth wagon. Literally the only thing that gives it away is the quad pipes.


0llie

3,176 posts

227 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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They weren't £85k new, were they?! (I genuinely don't know)

vtecyo

2,122 posts

160 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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I'd have one over the saloon if I was in the market. Massive fan of these.

danp

1,658 posts

293 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Article says "successor to the E34 M5 and E36 M3 wagons"

Don't believe they ever made the latter, even in LHD?

British Beef

2,573 posts

196 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Discs and pads from a main stealer are closer to £3k fitted on these.

DSG reliability (or lack there of) is why I never did or will buy one of these.

That V10 engine on the other hand is one of the best powerplants ever to grace a BMW!!

Beer Man

249 posts

145 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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So an 09 plate one in white in Uckfield the other day.

Pretty sure Sussex Plod had one for a while too.

pSynrg

238 posts

213 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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My absolute fave 'do nearly everything' motor.

I just have to wait for the prices to tumble a but more...

NXXN

111 posts

157 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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danp said:
Article says "successor to the E34 M5 and E36 M3 wagons"

Don't believe they ever made the latter, even in LHD?
No E36.

BMW built prototype of the E46 and E39.





Edited by NXXN on Tuesday 4th November 13:40

hornetrider

63,161 posts

236 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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thatguy11 said:
Love that it's de-badged, the ultimate stealth wagon. Literally the only thing that gives it away is the quad pipes.
And the wing vents, and the bumpers (to the keen eyed beards) wink

The running costs of these scared the st out of me, hence getting a 550i for around half the entry fee of this one.

soad

34,725 posts

207 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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0llie said:
They weren't £85k new, were they?! (I genuinely don't know)
That's including many options, I'm sure. Basic price was £67,075.

AyBee

11,347 posts

233 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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There must be a manual box that can be attached to this frown

daveco

4,416 posts

238 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Is it me or does the current 5 series (M5 version and 5 series sport trim) look absolute pants compared to the E60? E39 and E60 had great proportions imo.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

236 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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scratchchin

Never a good sign hehe



kambites

71,639 posts

252 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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AyBee said:
There must be a manual box that can be attached to this frown
It was available as a manual in the US.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

202 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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kambites said:
AyBee said:
There must be a manual box that can be attached to this frown
It was available as a manual in the US.
In the saloon, not sure if they offered the Touring in the US.

JustADay

200 posts

157 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Article said:
...and there are electric toothbrushes with more low-down torque...
Article said:
Torque (lb ft): 384@611rpm
I don't know, seems pretty good to me!

BlackPorker

394 posts

206 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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hornetrider said:
scratchchin

Never a good sign hehe

You mean the oil? Any sensible owner would carry the oil around because the V10 burns through a lot of oil. It can use up to 1 litre of oil per 1,000 miles which is perfectly normal. The car has an electronic oil sensor which tells you via the iDrive when to add oil.

Edited by BlackPorker on Tuesday 4th November 14:28

kambites

71,639 posts

252 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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Mermaid said:
kambites said:
AyBee said:
There must be a manual box that can be attached to this frown
It was available as a manual in the US.
In the saloon, not sure if they offered the Touring in the US.
I would assume the gearbox must still fit, though. I can't imagine the estate has a different shaped transmission tunnel. smile

Mermaid

21,492 posts

202 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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kambites said:
I would assume the gearbox must still fit, though. I can't imagine the estate has a different shaped transmission tunnel. smile
Of course not, misread what had been written. wink

The DCT box would be nice.